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First Year Coach Gator Coach Win Loss Records

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by cedarkey_gator1, Nov 26, 2022.

  1. cedarkey_gator1

    cedarkey_gator1 GC Hall of Fame

    1,039
    104
    1,828
    Apr 12, 2007
    You guys with the computer skills. Just curious. And yes I know BN was thrown a dumpster fire.
     
  2. TJtheGator

    TJtheGator GC Hall of Fame

    11,541
    1,977
    2,628
    Apr 3, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    SOS: 9-2
    Urbs: 9-3
    Mullen: 10-3
    Lumpy: 7-6
    McYellowHorseTeeth: 10-4
    Pell: 0-10-1
    Hall: 9-1-1
    Dickey: 7-4
    Graves: 9-2
     
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  3. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    17,276
    1,258
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Billy near the bottom of the barrel. What surprises me is that he’s been unable to improve upon the record of a team that was said to have quit on Mullen.
     
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  4. upstategator

    upstategator GC Legend

    883
    344
    1,898
    Nov 1, 2017
    Really unfair comparison. Some of the listed coaches stepped into much better scenarios
     
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  5. 06GATORS08

    06GATORS08 GC Hall of Fame

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    435
    1,963
    Dec 12, 2009
    Mullen was getting snarky in the pressers and it was clear that his view of recruiting wasn't consistent with that of top teams in the SEC. Seems to me his heart wasn't really into recruiting/coaching in the NIL era.

    Time will tell on Napier but with the attrition to the transfer portal and the draft, it's silly to compare this and last year's teams.
     
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  6. thale410

    thale410 GC Hall of Fame

    3,876
    164
    2,068
    Apr 3, 2007
    True. Though, zero difference makers on this squad at the moment. A few pieces were there from SOS-Mullen. We pretty much got what we could have realistically expected. No one in the program elevated beyond what we thought they were.

    Upgrade talent and revamp coordinators.
     
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  7. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Because as much as I loved him, Mullen (grantham) didnt recruit any dogs. Just big names)star ranking guys. Those guys never quit, because frankly on the defensive side they never started.

    Billy is stuck with these same dudes.

    Billy wont improve until he gets his guys.

    Urban inherited a championship level roster.

    Sos inherited a sleeping giant as The Bear called it.

    Zook and Muschamp inherited championship caliber programs.

    McElwain played the weakest East in SEC history arguably. Benefiting from coaching changes at UGA and UT.

    This stuff means nothing.

    Nape is literally rebuilding. Something Mac and Champ never really did.

    The baffling one in all this is Mullen who really seamed to have turned the program around early on but was too stubborn to build on it.
     
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  8. TJtheGator

    TJtheGator GC Hall of Fame

    11,541
    1,977
    2,628
    Apr 3, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    Not a good stat to predict future success.

    The two who started the best flamed out misserably.

    The one who started the worst is arguably our third best coach ever.

    And our two NC coaches started indistiguishably from those who were inconsistent throughout their tenures.

    All that being said, there are some serious defficiencies in Billy’s game he needs to address asap.
     
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  9. MarineG8R

    MarineG8R GC Hall of Fame

    4,176
    1,685
    2,848
    Nov 19, 2014
    Mullen quit. He fired himself. He had every opportunity to be successful.
     
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  10. RealGatorFan

    RealGatorFan Premium Member

    15,088
    7,736
    2,893
    Apr 3, 2007
    Mullen quit when the one player he didn't believe in excelled and graduated. He looked over the roster and saw EJ, his star recruit. Mullen wants to play chess but he hates pulling the board out and placing the pieces. Set the board up for him and he'll win. That style works in the MAC, but not in the SEC. You have to have a zeal for recruiting because that's where it is at. You can back 50 years and look at recruiting and the champions always were in the Top 10 year-in and year-out. Since 2000, no team won the title without a Top 5 recruiting class. There are outliers like UCF or Boise St but they are 1 in a decade.
     
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  11. Gatorallstar1012

    Gatorallstar1012 GC Legend

    818
    171
    1,853
    Oct 31, 2011
    Quit on Mullen, but they fight til the end with Billy. So even with the same record their is heart from them.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

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    1,258
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Bet you budgeted losing to Vandy and KY and getting nearly blown out by another LSU team in disarray.
     
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  13. upstategator

    upstategator GC Legend

    883
    344
    1,898
    Nov 1, 2017
    Not sure what you’re applying. Billy needs to look inward and make changes but comparing first year coaches when they coached decades apart is foolish. Saban was 7-6 his first year at bama so if we win the bowl game we have the next Saban right? See it doesn’t make sense


    That being said I think BN needs to
    Make some changes and losing to vandy is unacceptable no matter what the situation is.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

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    Mullen was decades apart ? After a stirring upset in the opening game, it’s arguably been mostly downhill. I expected us to get better. This is not to suggest that Napier was the wrong hire. But it remains to be seen whether he was the right hire.
     
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  15. upstategator

    upstategator GC Legend

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    Nov 1, 2017
    I think we might be debating different points here. My point was
    Comparing Billy to our most successful coaches.
    Yea mullen had a good first couple years but that didn’t amount to anything.
     
  16. tigator2019

    tigator2019 GC Hall of Fame

    1,497
    2,582
    1,873
    Dec 25, 2018
    In my head--- UF
    9th out of ten. It’s a list not just a comparison
     
  17. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

    18,318
    6,158
    3,313
    Apr 3, 2007
    Philadelphia
    Jumping ahead. 9 - 3 regular season
    2023-24 would be a nice target for improvement.
     
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  18. ETGator

    ETGator Long-Time Gator Stuck In East Tennessee Moderator VIP Member

    13,881
    8,713
    3,213
    Sep 15, 2007
    QB play can make a ton of difference all by itself. Just look at the f$u and USCw QBs and what they meant in their games in the last 2-days alone.

    The Florida zone runs are "next level" according to analysts.

    When Florida gets some speedsters at WR I think the "Xs and Os" will work themselves out.
     
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  19. INGATORSWETRUST

    INGATORSWETRUST GC Hall of Fame

    16,907
    1,152
    1,328
    Apr 8, 2007
    Florida
    Quality of competition matters. As of today, the Gators played 6 teams that are ranked in the top 20 of the most recent poll with a record of 2-4. This excludes KY that was ranked most of the season and just beat a ranked Louisville team.
     
  20. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    2,414
    1,042
    2,063
    Nov 11, 2014
    I don't think the players that quit, quit on Mullen. I think they quit on themselves. Maybe that didn't change when they stuck around for the first year with Napier.