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Golden takes jab at officiating…

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Nov 24, 2022.

  1. akaGatorhoops

    akaGatorhoops GC Columnist VIP Member

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    “I thought they did a really good job defending in the post
    physically (<— emphasized). Between Fremantle and Nunge… those are probably two of the most physical bigs we’ve played all year … they combined for two fouls (<— emphasized). So I gotta go back and watch how they do such a good job defending without fouling around the rim.. especially against a guy like Colin, who is one of the best foul drawers in the country. But he wasn’t very comfortable down there, it didn’t look like. And I thought there were sometimes where there might’ve been a little contact that he didn’t get an opportunity to go to the line.”
     
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  2. rserina

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    CC only got to the line once, against 5-14 shooting. Highly unlikely a big gets—and misses—that many shots without drawing a few fouls.
     
  3. fox

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    Foul drawers not good.
     
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  4. akaGatorhoops

    akaGatorhoops GC Columnist VIP Member

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    lmao
     
  5. bullish

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    I thought for some reason, the refs let them push and shove all night long. I saw JJ get held at least once real good, Lofton they pushed out of bounds and gave them the ball. CC well he was getting pushed and hit on the arms almost every time down.

    The problem is, CTG has to stay connected with the refs to become a great coach. The time to discuss this is when we are getting the wrong end of the stick. Miller played the refs and controlled the refs. Two fouls on their bigs is laughable!
    To Todd’s credit he did talk to one of the goofball refs, the guy wouldn’t even look at him. Get IN THEIR FACE and Scream, Call it on all the pushing, shoving and hacking under the boards and keep pointing it out. CTG have their backs when the Gators are on the floor! CMW would sit back when we were getting jobbed time after time, that is why he is not here any longer, I hope you will get better at this as the year goes along. We need the fire from you, the team gave you all they had tonight, CTG you have to ask yourself, did I get suckered? We are pulling for you to come through also. Go Gators!
     
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  6. BA69MA72

    BA69MA72 GC Legend

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    Everyone complained about this with White. But, no solution ever offered
     
  7. gator34654

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    Heck, they were calling ticky tac fouls on us all game long.
     
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  8. tegator80

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    Turn them inside out. Problem solved!
     
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  9. bullish

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    I screamed every game for CMW to get in the officials face. But his demeanor remained passive and introverted. He overstayed his welcome at least two years, that is on our AD. Izzy at Mich. St. leaves the floor exhausted, Same with Pearl. Two of the best on the court coaches. Their players run through walls for them. Both of them stay on the refs and make them uneasy that they did something wrong and get calls because the refs are focused to get these coaches off their butts. When you are on the road, you have to come out of your normal coaching style because if not, you will get jobbed. Give your team everything you got. Looking in control and being focused that they are calling a good game takes emotion and strength of character that you know what you are doing. Let the refs know that they are calling it one way and point it out. But keep talking to the refs or you will get burned like last night. The first half was a joke on their pushing, shoving an hooking arms. Talking about this after the game is for coaches that don’t understand what being a great coach on the court is. Coach, the whole nation is watching and this is your career path, need I say more!
     
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  10. ETGator

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    I agree . . . and more than once almost wrote something in the OGT.

    However, I don't like blaming refs, even when there's clearly a double-standard for whatever reason.

    Once, in particular, the Xavier big was mauling CC who took a shot and missed (because of contact) and then a follow-up and finally scored . . . but no foul. Either shot.

    Come right down and the Xavier big turns and a whistle blows with a touch foul on CC.

    Was it technically a foul? Yes. Was it a foul after the double-mugging that just happened on the other end? Either be consistent or don't ref.

    On a positive note, I always wanted my teams to be able to beat both the other team and their refs. It might help in the long run because Florida could have still won the game.
     
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  11. tegator80

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    I don't know this, but I think that Golden wants his guys to fight through the adversity and not rely on the refs to be perfect or have him to bail them out. This is early in the season, and you don't win championships in the early stages.
     
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  12. GatorPlanet

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    You are wise beyond your years, young Skywalker.
     
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  13. g8rvet

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    BD was not a "ref-worker". He got involved for sure, but he was not a whiny biznitch either - like the Vandy guy, his name escapes me-the refs get tired of that too and call it worse against you. There is a fine line. You want to let them know you will show out if needed, but maintain a line that you don't cross. I agree that Golden needs to get way closer to the line (I often thought BD needed to as well, so what do I know). Rat-face (as my UNC family called him) was a notorious whiner and he did okay.
     
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  14. GratefulGator

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    White's demeanor with the refs was docile like a baby bunny
     
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    Hope we have a completely different officiating crew for this game...their big is 6'8 250. Should start the game with Jitoboh and Colin on the court, have Jitoboh keep him out of the key and let CC go to work
     
  16. jeffphillips21

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    I'm with you on the not complaining too much, but sometimes refs have such an incredible effect that it changes the entire fabric of the game. That's why refs get targeted by the mob for point shaving. Call 2 quick fouls on the star player or allow muggings down low, illegal screens or constant hand-checking...it completely changes the game. We can all remember the amount of times the hometown Rupp refs would sway the game in their favor.

    In games like yesterday we would have been better off with no refs and just call our own fouls. Park and rec style. CC went to the line once. That was criminal, and there's no excuse but to point all fingers at those blatantly incompetent refs.
     
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  17. g8wayg8r

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    Officiating this year is all over the place and inconsistent during the game. Wait for flop technicals to rack up. It's nuts this year. Officials can flip momentum in 60 seconds so watch out for ranked teams being protected.
     
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  18. rserina

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    I really don't think the officiating was terrible last night. They got themselves into trouble with quick foul calls early, and we never recovered once they swallowed the whistles. Castleton absolutely has to learn to finish better through contact rather than expecting the calls he got the first few games, when he had a FT rate of right at 50%, against 13% last night.
     
  19. akaGatorhoops

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    yeah- I didn’t see anything egregious, but it would be surprising to see two physical bigs combine for 2 fouls.
     
  20. GatorPlanet

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    I agree. The OSU game officiating wasn't too bad, overall. The Xavier officiating is the one that pissed me off. Watching the Xavier officials discuss the call was like watching Russian TV talking heads discuss the war in Ukraine:
    "Ah, Vlad, but the Florida Nazi player obviously fouled the heroic Xavier player's hand with his face! Never have I seen such a brutal assault upon decency."
    "Da, Yevgeny! The naked aggression of the Florida Nazis cannot go unpunished, in order to protect the integrity of the peace-loving Xavierites."
     
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