I don't get the 1st round AR talk. Guy isn't even a 1 year wonder. He's done nothing to even be considered getting drafted in the first 2 rounds. This is a joke. He's not even close to being ready.
Didn't need time, needed film, and film says this take was simply wrong. I find it ridiculous why so many were happy to see Cox go because he "goes rogue" or "hero mode" or however you want to describe him not making the right reads / not doing his assignment. Then turn around and question AR's heart/motivation/leadership/sabotage or however you want to describe him MAKING THE RIGHT F*&^ING READS. He did his job and half this board wants to kick him to the curb. If you want to critique poor ball placement, or getting happy feet and rolling right (the direction) into pressure, then by all means have at it. But to question his character for executing the play as it is taught, GTFOH.
He’s not ready is not really being debated. Watch the games and anyone can see he has a long way to go. If frayed, and he will be, it’ll be on potential which he has a ton of. Which team thinks they can unlock that potential? He’s a freak athlete and can sling it. Will he ever be an average nfl qb from tge pocket is tge million dollar question.
Agree. This game was lost by bad offensive line play, mistakes on special teams and a failure to force field goals in sudden change situations.
AR is a young kid who is getting whispers in his ear from people who stand to make a buck off of him. In my opinion hopefully there will be a come to Jesus moment...or a come to Tebow moment (very similar) where someone he trusts tells him he may get drafted in round 2 or may fall to round 5 but if he goes back and works on his game he will come out a top 5 pick. This is after all a guy playing the best competition in college football with a less than stellar cast around him right now and has started just a dozen games. He looks like should at this stage and could develop so much more next year. Honestly I think he may have made a decision but the variability of where he will be drafted will set in. I know it only takes one team but tell that to Damien Pierce. He isn't a first rounder now...no way...but next year will be no doubt.
Another mock with the NY Giants taking AR. 2023 NFL Mock Draft: Examining what the Giants and Jets should do at the QB position
Right, not sure why people are saying he’s not ready. The most polished QB, Bryce Young, isn’t ready. We can all speculate on what’s best for the young man, but how can anyone criticize if he takes the money. Not every player is a Dameon Pierce unfortunately.
And THIS is the only reason AR gets these looks. There are maybe 10-12 QB’s who can win a SB. And +1 with all others lumped into that one spot for the Trent Dilfer miracles every couple of decades. Stafford, Brad Johnson types are down in that 10-12 range. The list of SB winners after those names is basically a HOF roll call. And even Stafford will get HOF votes, if not in. If you have Daniel Jones you’re in that +1 group and realistically have no chance. Taking a flyer on AR is not ludicrous. If he busts, you’re in the same spot. If NYG takes a monster WR at that spot, or the best OG, or whatever other position of need, they still have a +1 QB and are basically DOA. The Jets are even more glaring. They did basically this very thing. They took a questionable dude at #2 out of desperation. Maybe he turns it around, but this week he’s being humiliated by not even being active while a former Gator basketball coach starts (same guy, right?) They have an elite D. And they can’t get past .500 because the QB is a dud. But they aren’t worse than before, just back to the same place. For these teams playing Jameis types there isn’t much downside in hoping the guy with NFL physical talent can flip the switch and also develop the skills. Allen is the model here, getting MUCH more accurate after entering the league. He’s also one of one, but hitting that long shot has now made Buffalo a SB favorite. I personally am not bullish about AR in the NFL as it basically boils down to him somehow learning to throw the ball a LOT more accurately and also improve the consistency of reads tremendously, in a faster, more complex, more skilled setting. I’d set the likelihood of success at >0 and don’t feel confident in bumping it in any way. But the NO/NYx’s of the league, and that’s most of them, eh, maybe you try to win this lottery.
That attitude is what separates him from many other players that may have his talent but not his heart.
I agree on taking a chance on a qb but there are several others I’d pick first. Running ability would never be the top criteria for me if I were a gm. Fools gold. Allen learned to throw is what has gotten him over the top. Lots of guys can run.
At this point ALL NFL QB’s are mobile enough. Peyton types just aren’t even in the pipeline. No need to reach for a runner. Brady might be the last dodo bird. Ironically Trask is the closest I can think of, and we haven’t seen him yet. And Trask is INSANELY accurate. He’ll be quite the case study for NFL success, IMO.
Hopefully he has the best performance of his career tomorrow and he leads us to victory.. and if he is going gets a great first round pick and represents us well.
