At a much lower rate when compared to any unvaccinated group of reasonable sample size and matching in demographics. That results in higher deaths for one group than the other and can cause the scales to tip on average, even if both groups have deaths.
I don’t even see any reputable articles out there showing all these vaccinated people dying, either. It seems to be mainly far right wing news sites making crap up off the top of their heads. Fact of the matter is the vaccine is much more likely to prevent death or illness than if you were to not be vaccinated, the facts flat out don’t lie. Like any vaccine, however, it’s not 100% fool proof and you can still get very sick or die from the virus, but your odds reduce dramatically. It’s like telling a patient that has cancer that it has a 95% to kill you, but there is a treatment with minimal side effects that can reduce that chance to 50% - why wouldn’t you take it?
What constitutes a “reputable article” ? Which source would have to attest that mRNA jabs had a risky side effects profile to raise concerns ?
Just a reminder that, to a large extent, that the debate is moot, because there was never anything to vaccinate for. So if you refuse to accept attestations of deaths, from the vaccine, you still need to deal with strong correlations between vaccine rollout and excess deaths.
If you read my response as an implied conclusion that I believe Doctors should be recommending and be a first option treatment that is not my intent. My only intent was to say firsthand experience says that it has some effect, so some claiming that we are idiots and it's debunked that it does nothing is all I'm disputing.
The effectiveness of the treatment is anecdotal, but I've no doubt it is effective in those cases. None of us are alike, and some people may indeed respond to the treatment. I've no idea what the percentage is, however, but like to think the experts would recommend it if it were more than a small percentage. I think the concern is that people not primarily rely upon it rather than on physician recommended treatment.
Watch this and tell me what you think about the vaccine afterwards. I just watched this video and I feel sick to my stomach about what I learned/saw. This is genocide on a global scale and people involved in this all need their time in the court room. https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OyKAVqbvayGb
I’m interested to see where, on the death certificates, is the line for political affiliation. I suspect they just listed all the deaths, in red states, and labeled them Republicans.
WaPoo reports differently sharing 58% of deaths came from vaxxed or boosted in August. Those numbers don't include "died suddenly." The vaccinated now account for a majority of COVID deaths.
Well, you have already presented the problem. Let's say that the majority of people are vaccinated (let's say around 70%, weighted unevenly towards older age groups). Then, 58% of deaths would mean that you have a lower chance of dying from Covid in the vaccinated group. And that is before we take into account the proper weighting due to age or unobserved risk factors (e.g., sicker, older people select themselves into the vaccinated group).
If you took the time to read it you would have noted that they compared the deaths to voter registration records.
Apologies, I was confusing this study of TWO STATES with the especially slovenly national stdu Apologies as I was confusing this study of JUST TWO STATES with the especially slovenly national study. One problem immediately arises in this study. There was less excess mortality in OH, than in FL, despite significantly lower vaccination rates ... Of course the biggest problem is that there is no such thing as Covid, rendering all studies of this sort nonsense.
Conspiracy theorists are people who are tired of being right all the time. No human pathogenic virus has ever been isolated. 2020ff is a panic-induced PCR-based pseudo-epidemic with mass reclassification of deaths.
