And yet, it hasn't come far enough. Progress does take time, but it also requires us to actually attempt to make progress.
So who do you propose we deny achievement to? Whites? Again hate spawns hate and racism spawns racism. Imagine if the ncaa said you had to have at least one white starter at defensive back no matter their speed or coverage ability. Would that not be racist?
I don't know why the belief is that seeking to promote equity necessarily results in white people being denied "achievement."
I would suggest to you we are constantly working on getting better. Roadblocks are always put up in the pursuit of a more perfect union. Let's not take the long way around to the solution. Progress is not a one answer solution, it takes time and collective cooperation to achieve. A lot like you and I. We completely disagree on a lot of things but in order for us to not return to our corners and wait for the bell for round two sometimes we just need to cool down a little, be willing to see things from the other perspective and then get back at it .....with civility.
No one would argue with that statement if only it were true. Do you not see how White people are constantly being told to beg for forgiveness for their White privilege. This approach will never work.
"You can, however, deny achievement and make achievement far more attainable." I'm just going off what you said about denying achievement.
As a white person, I have never been told to beg for forgiveness. People have discussed the nature of white privilege in this country, but I can honestly say that I have never been asked to beg for forgiveness, much less had it happen "constantly." That seems to me to be more of an emotional response to the notion that we need to admit that it exists in any way but the most abstract fashion.
When I spoke of denying achievement, I was speaking of our country systematically denying achievement to Black people.
White people kneel, ask forgiveness from the black community in Third Ward. Google it yourself. I am not making this up.
This is weird and is not what anyone with an understanding of those concepts would do. Nor is anyone expecting this to happen.
Yes it's weird, it's wrong and it does not advance the search for equality. These kinds of extreme examples slow down progress.
Yeah but that isn't what anyone on this board (nor anyone who has taken the time to truly educate themselves on these things) means when they talk about acknowledging white privilege or anything of the like.
Except, when I googled it, it was a group of people that decided to attend a service for George Floyd and decided that they wanted to do that, not that they were "constantly told" to do so (or even told to do so once). That is clearly not the same thing that you claimed. BTW, they were then joined in prayer by black attendees of the event after they accepted their apology.
I would argue that stagnation also results in moving backwards. I think equity to the point where barriers to success are minimized and we can have a true meritocracy with sufficient social safety nets that motivate all citizens to contribute would be the goal. Obviously it'll never be perfect but I think while America has done some great things, it can do better and continue to progress.
Yeah but like would you do the same thing with Nazi iconography? This is where I'm really struggling to understand how it isn't racist.
Where do you think those people got the idea from. Research it some more and see where the origins of this insanity came from.
I googled it too... came back to say the same thing. It doesn't appear to have anything to with white people being told to kneel and apologize to black people for white privileged, as the poster said ...
How about you actually provide the evidence of those people being "constantly asked" to do what they did rather than telling me to find evidence to back your claim?
If it's as constant and common as you claim it be, seems like you could find a better link than that one ...
