Why? 7+ is five hats for OL and two more for whatever else. Cover 0 is every guy not in M2M outside in the box. Those bunch sets even bring the M2M into the box. I doubt James is lying. The film will be out soon, we’ll see what it says.
Not saying James is lying. I disagree with him as I saw them crashing inside. Now I don't have access to the alt 22, but I feel good with AR matching up one on one with a DE or LB. We have 5 linemen so all 5 should’ve been accounted for and if the 2 others were on AR, we run the RBs until they are blue. Cover 0 means it’s man to man on our WR with no help. I get that they don’t respect our passing game especially with the injuries at WR, but that plays right into AR scrambling. Again, he just has to beat the spy and we’ve seen him abuse players of Vanderbilt’s caliber plenty of times.
This will obviously be on the film study: Second run out of the half, 7 in the box, the 7th OLB pretending to sorta be interested in the two WR's really isn't, he crashes immediately, S on that side does also. If the S was on the way from the snap, that's effectively an 8 man box. The DE does come down a little on MJ, AR keeps, there is an OLB just standing there doing nothing at all besides watching AR, he stays outside shoulder, MLB also on the way after a cursory glance to the MJ fake to clean up AR forced back inside. That's obviously just one play. But after the game a lot of fantakes on this were AR being "forced" to carry those first two (nope, that was the zone read, and he did it right since the DE went with MJ), and that there are just open fields of gold that AR won't accept. I doubt it. I bet we see this all day. That is a game plan, not an exotic one-timer run on a critical 2&3 from the opponent's 32 with only 29:40 left in the game. But it is just one play, so maybe all the others show dramatically different concepts.
Good analysis. Beat writers could never put up a column this detailed. Too busy eating free meals in the game
Second half we did First half was 50/50. Passing was successful first half but the runs were not. Runs stalled drives. 12 Personnel; run, run, pass red zone offense is abysmal. Second half we went pass heavy and scored a TD 3 of 6 drives. The passing offense was successful
Well you can plainly see in the play in the Tweet above that it starts as a 7 man box, which effectively shuts the zone read down alone, but a S is also on the way, so it's really 8. Even if AR were to somehow just dump-truck multiple LBers you can watch the OTHER safety not look at WR help for a single glance, immediately steps sideways toward the box at the snap, and first non-lateral step is toward the point of attack. If that was a WR post, that S would have been a non-factor, he was simply not playing pass. You can also see that the handoffs were simply not working, although we did have a couple break (one called back due to illegal set, one negated with a late hit.) And "scrambling" may or may not work but that's far from a plan. It's more than a spy with AR, game plans revolve around his running, and rightfully so. It's more like the systemic passing game is just not set up to beat cover 0 and there is very little adaptation, for whatever reason, and forcing AR to hit M2M windows is obviously the way to go since accuracy is his issue. Even when we get it right, something is off enough to ruin it, like two missed bombs to the newbie WR. That could very well be Bowman being not on the same page or just challenging AR to throw to WR's instead of spots, but either way that is the actual plan, not flukey chaos. I would, however, agree that anticipating M2M from FSU who has already shown it 40% for an entire season, two NFL-quality CB's, and film that screams to play M2M against AR and play all other available guys against his running SHOULD dictate more creativity, like running all routes to rails and see if FSU will vacate the middle of the field, like we did in the most absurd ways earlier in the year. Of course that was largely our DL just abandoning inside lanes also, but perhaps FSU will fall for this. I don't recall us trying this one time this season. AR basically has two run plays: the ZR and the sweep. If everyone wants to see him run more, and especially given the asinine character shots people are taking at him, he'll need more DESIGN. A pass play is a pass play, and expecting him to run every other one is just simply not going to happen. He'll find someone to throw to most of the time, like all QB's do, right or wrong, and he also scrambles a lot more than everyone is pretending.
The passing game did work though. 3 of 6 drives ended in TDs in the second half when we didn’t run the ball into 3rd and long.
Agreed. It is part of why this ridiculous idea sweeping the boards that AR was the problem is so delusional. But it also is limited, like AR missing JUST enough open receivers or being JUST inaccurate enough to hit the wrong hands to give you a fighting chance if other things go your way, like the plethora of horrendous play/coaching we got from virtually every other available source Saturday. Minus just a couple boulders from the mountain of WTF, we probably still win. Don't drop a TD, don't literally give them a TD, don't have a DidIJustSeeThat interception on the wrong 30. Hold on to the pick 6. Get the sack instead of a facemask, come-on-man holding, etc. As in, literally just one of those things doesn't or does happen and it's likely an ugly but not really even that scary win. The game plan is obviously to load up on the run, because it is lethal with both RB's and AR. And while AR can go for 400 and 3 TD's, maybe you can get enough mistakes or just merely out play the D and still win. It isn't a secret at this point, it's stone-cold lead pipe lock strategy.
Put briefly, we are just not good enough to make more than a couple mistakes in a game against Vandy. So, come Friday we better be perfect. No pressure.
I agree . . . and from watching it live, which gives a different perspective. Even with a dedicated spy, AR would have gained more than the RB going into a pile most times, I think. Once it was an almost walk-in score. The difference is the chance of injury which is practically zero if the handoff is made. I am not accusing AR of playing scared or saving himself for the NFL either. I honestly don't know where this decisions comes from and neither do any of us. Vanderbilt seemed to be breaking towards the pile from the outside while AR still had control of the ball most times so they may have seen something in Florida's alignment and movement post-snap.
James does such great analysis. I heard a rumor that Billy Napier's 10,000-person army has analysts as well. Why are we not seeing obvious analysis-driven adjustments, other than in the second half of the Texas A&M game? I am a big fan of Napier, but in the last game of the season I want to see what makes Napier different from his predecessors other than the fact that he is a likable guy. I hope his analysts come up with similar conclusions as GNFP, but more importantly I hope the coaching staff can make timely adjustments.
No, we are not good enough to overcome almost every mistake makeable and hope AR can overcome all of that and his own limitations in the same game. A normal game of mistakes or even a couple more and we're fine at Vandy. But that debacle would require, like Heisman year Young or something that we certainly don't have and few do.
1) AR has a read to make on the ZR, end of analysis. He is not reading MJ's potential gaps, he is reading the DE or LB that is put in the conflict position. There is no "deciding" his bad matchup is better than MJ's. He can make a bad read here, but that's it. 2) Why would AR gain more than MJ? MJ is a specialist in running the ball, he doesn't do anything other than that. He is most certainly a better RB than AR. If you have to give the ball to your running QB or your running RB in equally bad spots, then you go with the RB 100 out of 100 times. 3) You aren't accusing AR of avoiding injury, you are just saying that exact thing the sentence before saying you aren't saying it.
As far as the red zone offense is concerned, a trend I've noticed at Florida: Even when the offense looked decent at times under McElwain (yes I mean McElwain), it was always statistically poor in the red zone. I don't think it's a coincidence that we went from good to elite offense between 2005 and 2009 to mediocre to poor offense between 2010 and 2017 with a nonexistent red zone offense. I think scheme has a lot to do with that. Meyer/Mullen had their way of running red zone offense that I think is different than your typical red zone offense. It was a lot of five wide, spread the field out, and if they respect the pass, run it with your QB, if they play to stop the QB, beat them with the pass. I do not believe we have had even a competent red zone offense under a relatively traditional red zone scheme for at least 17 years. This was one of the reasons I loved Mullen so much. He seemed like a perfect schematic fit on offense for Florida. Obviously he had other problems, but I really want coaches to just start using what has traditionally worked for the Florida Gators. There is no reason why we can't be great on both sides of the ball when it's felt like we were elite on offense from 2007-2009, elite on defense from 2012 to 2016, and good to elite on offense from 2018 to 2020. Find the schemes that have recently worked, hire coaches who follow those schemes and stick to it.
It's pretty well-documented at this point we go into that 12 personnel shell in the RZ and things bog down. And typically it's run-run-pass out of it too. So far it's a perfect storm of bunching up the sets, two TE's who aren't dynamic (today, anyway), stubborn A/B gap running, and AR himself just doesn't seem comfortable in these sets. So yeah, this philosophy either needs to go altogether or, I guess, personnel has to be upgraded to an almost mythical degree. I just don't see how the latter is realistic.
12 personnel in the red zone MAY work in the NFL with the right personnel under the right scheme. It's hard to find multiple TEs who are those kind of athletes at this level that puts defenses on their heels.
No I'm not. I'm also not blindly supporting AR based on what a YouTube commentator is saying . . . this week. I'm trying to tell folks what I saw looking at the whole field at once and also zeroing in on open spots. Why would AR gain more than MJ? When the entire Vanderbilt defense is breaking toward the pile post-snap, while AR still has control of the ball, and if a RB is running into that pile of bodies and AR has daylight to the side, I don't care if he runs or skips, he will get more than 2 to -2. I never said it was AR's decision not to pull the ball and have zero risk of injury. It could have been Coach Napier's. It's why I also said none of us know where the decision comes from. Finally, it's not as simple as a math equation. Defensive coverage can be disguised. Assignments can be missed. Players can over-play.
They brought a safety from different sides fairly often. We didn’t seem to recognize or adjust. AR’s speed vs a LB? Running into a box? They had a few plays with 10 in the box. Our formations often seem to benefit the opponent.