Stokes no longer a Gator

I don't consider those insults. They are empirically descriptive, and they are such despicable excuses for humans, that I honest;y have a hard time dignifying them with human names.

 

Dressing up like Mr T wasn't racist. Blackface is always racist. If you don't know that, or don't know why, I honestly don't know what could be said to explain it.

 

No, it's obviously real. But it is an issue that has started to fade away with the new generations. Because they are eliminating most of the divisions and hatred the previous generations embraced or wrestled with. As the cultures become harmonious, it's no longer appropriation, because it either becomes everyone's culture, or it no longer is stealing when it is from a place of understanding and embrace. This is specific to the item or behavior, of course, but it's a general rule.

 

Well there is more to his background that already sent up red flags, so this was a final straw, not an isolated incident.

But regardless of that, the scholly pull was not about the word as much as about the lack of responsibility and judgement in putting it on social media. We just can't have kids that irresponsible in the program; kids who could do the same thing with their Gator uniform on, and bring a massive media hammer onto us.

 

What were the other red flags in his background?

 

I agree with the first two. The last one, though, is not universal. It depends on the way it's used. You literally can't make a movie abut the inner city, about the civil rights movement, almost any modern period piece, without using the word. It wouldn't be credible. It's usually used to demonstrate the ugly power of the word.

It's like murder. Nobody should murder anyone. But try to find a movie without at least one murder.

 

Take your pick. Every sentence is ludicrous.

 

Good point. Stokes would have to be a brainless idiot not to know the rules on a white recruit of his level screaming the the N-word on social media. And you are correct that I am only assuming he's not that stupid. I don't actually know that he's not that stupid.

For me to know he is that stupid, he'd have to come on this forum and defend his decision to post that video, and try to convince people that it was no big deal.

 

pendulum has swung way to far, again

 

one of the biggest whiffs on GC is naming him a columnist. No idea why GC tolerates him and his caustic attitude towards anything or anyone that disagrees with him. Maybe if others put him on ignore too he would go away like some of the other trolls on this board

 

It's hilarious that anyone calls you a columnist. I'd say you're probably more like a GC intern. That's about the level of writing and critical thinking I see coming from you. What a shocker, all I need to do is read the first sentence from you to already dismiss all of your incoherent drivel. You seem to have put a lot of work into rebuttals to me but I've read exactly 4 sentences that you have written to me. You are about as insignificant to me as anyone could be on this forum. You try to act like you are somebody or somewhat of an authority yet you call everyone names including our coaching staff because you think you are above everyone else.

On top of that, you say you are a white man but you constantly berate others as "old white men". Are you confused? Are you one of these people who are culture vultures? You know, I never even asked I've always just assumed you were black due to your posting style before today and the avatar you've had on your account for as long as I've seen you post here. It is all starting to make sense and all pointing to the fact that nothing you say comes from any authority. You don't get exclusive rights to your own facts and your stupid little tag means nothing to me or anyone else. Especially with your tactics of name calling instead of what a real columnist would do and beat people with intellect and words instead of divisiveness and flame.

By the way, I'm not a Republican nor have I ever voted that way. I've had enough of your incoherent BS and you are an embarrassment to all the people who can actually call themselves columnists with a straight face. You are now added to the short list of ignorant leftist elitist who think they are morally and intellectually superior to everyone else. Don't bother responding to me, as I've told you I havent read 90% of what you said on here and I will not take anymore time to respond to or read any of your white guilt BS either. Feel free to have the last word as I know thats exactly what someone with such a high regards for themselves would want to do. Good riddance.

 

The last video is quite telling to me. When he gets off the college campus and goes to China Town and asks the Asians themselves, they aren't bothered at all. Some of them actually seemed to like him wearing it

 

If you think that saying the N-word on the public square is a political issue, then you don't have enough understanding of this to comment on it.

Cancel culture doesn't exist. Do you guys even realize or care what you sound like when you say that?

What you are calling cancel culture is what has always existed, and it's always been called accountability for one's actions.

"Cancel culture" was a term invented by people who don't want to face any accountability or consequences for bad behavior.

No, its just plain fact.

You know where the term comes from? The Me Too movement. It was then coined as "Call-Out Culture". It was an effort to empower women to call out their rapists, molesters, and other sexual abusers. You know who that upset? Men. Mostly white men who used their privilege to avoid consequences. Because they didn't like being called out, and they really didn't like American society, which had always looked away or even condoned sexual harassment and abuse, changing to a strong stand against it.

You know where it went from there? Black Lives Matter started using the "Call-Out Culture" term and the effort of the Me Too movement to urge Black people to call out cops for beating and killing Black people. You know who that upset? White men again.

In the Black Community (yep, there it is again: there IS a Black community) the term was transformed to "Cancelation" and it stood for the divestment from companies or shows or other entities that were blatantly racist. Hashtags "Cancel___" became one of the most prominent symbols. You know who that upset? White men once again.

In 2019, the media started to catch on to the trend, especially the hashtag trend, and some talking heads referred to it as a culture of cancelation. That's when the right wing propaganda networks like Fox News, Newsmax, Breitbart, etc., made up the term "Cancel Culture" and started marketing it as a liberal movement of political correctness against white conservatives. Hence, those are the only places the term is ever used, and of course by the people who are fans of those networks.

So, like I said. It's not a real thing. It's a term that was made up by people who didn't like their bad behavior being called out as bad behavior. You can look it all up. It's stone cold fact.

And by the way...

I'm not a keyboard warrior or troll. I've got a UF degree in Sociology. I've been on several national TV shows to discuss race relations. I've been quoted on race relations in a national best selling book. I've been interviewed in a documentary film on race relations. Nothing I say about race relations has any politically driven slant: it is just the facts as they exist in this country.

 

It's not my story to tell. And I wouldn't share it on a public forum if it were. The kid deserves every chance to make his life a success, and I won't be part of a kid's obstacles.

 

Also, the video kinda demonstrates this issue perfectly. Besides the white guy bringing up legitimate questions about double standards, even diving into differences in white and black owned law firms, he brings up Stokes' situation. Like I said, I couldnt care less about "being allowed" to say the word, because I personally have no use for it. But if Stokes likes to say "whats up n-" to his friends, is that a problem? Thats what I think the two white guys in the video are trying to understand. If the word is NOT being used as an insult, is it ok for a white person to say it? Apparently Stokes has never been told thats a no-no by his black friends, so why is everyone else making a big deal about it? And at the end, the black guy is encouraging them to say the word. It's not the guys on stage who want to say it, but kids like Stokes and other white kids who grow up with a lot of black friends do want to. Is it ok for them if their black friends say it is ok????? Is anyone HONESTLY getting offended by Stokes saying that, or are we just trying continue the "fight" for racial justice for no reason? Its obvious Stokes favors black culture, why reject him if you are the black community?

 

Sad that ideologues have to see the world in such black and white terms (no pun intended). Cancel culture definitely exists. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a certain level of merit to it. It’s just that people binge on the idea and get crazy, like you are being. It doesn’t have to be all one way or the other. There are shades of gray. Cancel culture and racism are not mutually exclusive. To deny either are real is sticking your head in the proverbial sand.

 

Calling BS. Why bring up other red flags in his background if you are not going to discuss them? What are the other red flags?!?

 

I will begin with a story that is 100% true, and will make some laugh, some cry, and most not believe it.

In high school, must have been 1998-2000, I had to give a creative presentation about a famous person from an assigned country. I was given South Africa. Of course, I picked Nelson Mandela.

I was a huge Snoop Dogg fan at the time. I wrote lyrics about the life of Mandela to the beat of a Snoop Dogg song. I performed the song to the best of my ability in front of class. I even went the extra step to rub the only harmless substance that was similar to Mandela's skin tone I could find on my face. Chocolate frosting.

I honestly had no idea what I did was offensive. The teacher and students liked my biographical rap. I was proud of it. I got to be Snoop and Mandela for a minute. It was fun. I didn't think anything other than "I got an A for sure" until I was walking to the bathroom to wash my face. The principal and the two assistant principals were making their rounds on a golf cart. As soon as they saw me, the brakes were slammed and tires squealed. I froze. They looked at each other, the principal said "we don't want to know," and they drove away as fast as the cart could go.

When I returned to class and told my teacher, she explained the whole "black face" issue, and I haven't put frosting on my face since.

My point is (beyond sharing a story that is both funny and frightening) that Stokes probably acted in a similar manner. He probably did not realize that others would find what he did offensive. He was just being him. I said the N word while rapping along with Snoop, Dr. Dre, Tupac, and too many others to name. I hate that he might have lost the opportunity to go to UF because he said a bad word. It's not like he had chocolate frosting on his face!

(Yes, I still got a scholarship to UF.)

PS

While at UF, I went to a David Allen Coe concert. The drummer was black and wore a bandana on his head. The bandana was a Confederate flag.

Also while at UF, I saw Snoop Dogg perform live. It was awful.

 

Did you read the article fully? There's an explanation for why they're different.
A public letter to the Associated Press: Listen to the nation and capitalize Black.
More recently, in a 2014 op-ed in The New York Times, Temple University journalism professor Lori L. Tharps had this to say: “When speaking of a culture, ethnicity or group of people, the name should be capitalized. Black with a capital B refers to people of the African diaspora. Lowercase black is simply a color.”

Tharps’s argument highlights the fact that Black people have a common cultural identity of history, art, community, and shared experiences. Most Black Americans lack a specific geographic identity, as they are unable to conclusively trace roots back to a specific country of origin due to enslavement. That lack of shared geography is actually part of what binds Black people together. And while “African American” is a fine terminology choice, it is sometimes considered inadequately representative by Black Americans with recent Caribbean or British lineage, for example, or those who have recently emigrated to the United States from Africa.
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The distinguishing factor here is that white people don't lack geographic identity. White people generally know where their ancestors emigrated from. Thus, white is merely describing color.

 

Wow can’t believe people are this ignorant / naive. I wish to live in your world.