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AR could go to the NFL according to 1010XL "big if"

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Mikog8tor, Nov 9, 2022.

  1. G8tas

    G8tas GC Hall of Fame

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    I just don't see it. His stats are very underwhelming and his accuracy isn't where it needs to be
     
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  2. GATORnGA

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    I agree, I know Denny keeps talking about size, arm strength, athletic ability, etc… but none of that matters if you can’t be accurate throwing the ball, and he missed a lot of easy throws again yesterday. I think he still lacks some mental toughness (although it has gotten better) and that too could improve with another year.

    I think another year will do him a world of good. But, not my decision.
     
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  3. 95Gator

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    Everyone did not think it was a foregone conclusion he stays. In fact, before we lost 3 in a row, Mel had him as the first QB to go, which was and apparently is crazy but if he would have been, you take that money.
     
  4. GatorKenW

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    What other generational talent at QB has taken so long to develop into a consistently average passer? I think if AR was a capable passer, we'd not be running it consistently on 3rd and 7-10. Think of the good to great QBs that have been around and you know almost instantly if they're going to be special.
     
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  5. GatorKenW

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    Has anyone gone through and run the stats on Mel's picks? Especially at QB?
     
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  6. freedomgator

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    lol with all the silliness on here about "The first round talk for AR needs to stop" as if it was somehow offensive would have you believe that very few thought it a foregone conclusion.
     
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  7. SuperMOM

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    With NIL, why go? Get yourself a big insurance policy and take the millions, play for a championship at Florida.
     
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  8. okeechobee

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    A guy like AR who uses his legs a lot is going to break down quicker than a pocket passer ala Tom Brady, so staying in school an extra year hurts AR more than it does most QBs. Speed fades quickly with age. AR’s window is smaller for that reason. Probably a big reason he is going to the draft after this year.
     
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  9. Distant Gator

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    This is a great question- why do the scouts think AR is ready, when so many fans (like myself) think he's so raw and undeveloped that he needs to stay another year.
    Are the fans that arrogant they think they know more than the paid guys?
    Perhaps the fans are selfish and seeing what they want to see so AR stays another year.

    Actually, I think it's the opposite.
    If you are a scout, you want MORE kids in the draft. The teams want MORE choices, not fewer.
    So the propensity, actually, is for the scouts to say GO if there is any doubt. Even if the player is a project.
    And if 1 of 3 projects work out, then the scout can point to the 1 and say "Hey, I found him."
    Now the other 2 who don't work out- that's just the game. Lots of guys don't work out.
    To scouts-these guys are just pieces of meat. Some work, some don't.

    But as fans we actually care about AR. He is a local kid, and we've watched him grow and mature.
    There is real affection here.
    So we don't want to see him bust- we don't want him to be one of the 2/3 who are thrown into the NFL garbage can.
    Of course we want him here to win games, but there's more to it than that.

    So I'm going to flip that thought- it's the scouts who don't care about AR. They are trying to convince him to go more on a percentage play.
    Whether he hits or misses- by the time that's figured out they will have gone on to the next thing.

    But its AR (and family) who has to live with the consequences of a bad decision.
    And it could cost him 10s of millions of dollars to go too early and bust.

    So yeah- someone needs to tell him the truth. These scouts don't care about him.
     
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  10. gatorempire

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    A lot of them. They just weren't predicted to be 1st round picks.

    Keep in mind lots of QBs used to stay until their senior year, and it wasn't uncommon for a guy to come into his own his RS Jr or RS Sr year.
     
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  11. tommyvee

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    Just thought of something. With NIL and college kids basically having agents, what’s to keep them from testing the draft AND returning to school and taking an NIL deal? There’s no losing your amateur status anymore.
     
  12. gatorempire

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    As far as I know if you're being paid to play football you still can't play college football.

    I don't know the ins and outs of the draft but I think you have to be draft eligible which means declaring so and that precludes playing NCAA football.

    What you describe is closer to MLB, where the teams can just draft anyone they want.
     
  13. 95Gator

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    I truly don’t understand this as a response to what I wrote. What I wrote was objective and didn’t have any opinion. He was being talked about around the league about being a first rounder, crazy or not, tbat was happening and continues to.

    What I think you guys don’t understand is that “making college base happy” doesn’t even fall as a category as a check.

    y’all thought I was crazy when I said Driskel DEFINITELY had an NFL careeer and Brissett too would be pros and they bother were/are and both managed and you guys really gave me the business when I said that.

    It is quite possible that even now, to a scout AR could be first round and it is objective they pundits were saying it early early season, silly or not.
     
  14. Gatorfred

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  15. cdngator411

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    Any team that takes AR in the first 3-4 rounds as he currently is, would be making a mistake unless to move him out of the QB position. His accuracy and mental toughness to endure still needs work. Potential is there, but nowhere near what is needed.
     
  16. grant1

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    that and if he stays, but does not improve, he won't be drafted (at QB at least) next year. If he goes this year, at least he has the chance on a team attempting to take him as a "project" with high ceiling. Stay and show that the "high ceiling" is not there, kiss any contract goodbye.
     
  17. G8R92

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    AR needs some extra time hitting the moving golf carts

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  18. 62gator

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  19. Wanne15

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    If they can take AR in the second or third or fourth round, they won’t have to pay him nearly as much money to sit on the bench for three or four years.
     
  20. traubgator

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    i can't fathom a team taking him in round 1 this year. and then is where you get the big signing bonuses:
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    He could come back, improve and become a top 10 pick.