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Fake punt….. fascinating!

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by BigByte1, Nov 13, 2022.

  1. BigByte1

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    I’m having trouble figuring out just what happened? Carolina lined up in a classic 11 offense, one back(blocker) One TE, three receivers and a QB, in this case the punter. Coach knew this could be a fake and called a time out to set up our defense. We had everyone covered and then the tackle, second down the lineman to the right of the center, takes off on a wheel route…. what!!! Is this some kind of tackle eligible thing, doesn’t the line judge have to announce that. With our punt returner back on the goal line it was 11 on 10. has anyone watched the play or have an explanation, I am stumped.
     
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  2. grant1

    grant1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Beautifully designed play that’s for sure. Don’t know exactly where the guy came from, but the 2 on the fly outside took the defenders with them, then the guy went to the flat where no one was left.
     
  3. BigByte1

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    Yes it was a well designed play, but the guy who ran out into the flats lined up as a tackle. Last I heard they could not run pass Routes.
     
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  4. grant1

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    Ever hear of tackle eligibile?
     
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  5. thom1507

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    Nah, the player was lined up as a TE and the two players outside of him were off the ball, so he was eligible. It was simply busted coverage where our LB should have run with him but did not.
     
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  6. BigByte1

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    I was thinking that’s what it must be but the line judge used to stop play and announce tackle eligible. I know I’m missing something, just haven’t figured it out yet.
     
  7. tommyvee

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    This has nothing to do with “tackle eligibility.” #5 is a WR, lined up at TE and was uncovered on the play so he’s an eligible receiver.

     
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  8. ETGator

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    Somebody missed an assignment. It happens. Sometimes nobody sees and sometimes the whole world sees.
     
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  9. WC53

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    Edge guy running in for block blew by errbody and then went awww nawww……
     
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  10. gatorstrackman

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    And then # 3 completely whiffed on the tackle.
    Defense shut them out after that thankfully.
     
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    At least Beamer learned one thing from his dad; Special Team play is important.
     
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    How many times did they bang that drum? We couldn't help ourselves and fueled the fire.
     
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  13. iam4uf

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    USC WR #28 was awfully close to being on the line, outside of #5 who was also on the line. Unfortunately the video is transitioning from fans to the play & it's too hard to tell for sure. Good job of disguising it.
     
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  14. chuikov

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    He was eligible by formation and his number #5. No need to declare Tackle Eligible. Comes down formation and player recognition BY COACHING.
     
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  15. Gatorrick22

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    They had two receivers on the right that we off the ball and the receiver that caught the ball was on the line of scrimmage and in tight on the right side too. The two wide receivers were off the ball and the one that eventually caught the call was lined up in tight on the right as well, so was he therefore eligible because he was "uncovered"?
     
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  16. iam4uf

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    I don't see it that often but will try to explain as I recall the rule. The furthest player on the outside that is on the line determines the extent of the line. You can't have both a tight end & a receiver occupying that end position, if they do, that receiver "covers up" the TE & it's an ineligible formation. On the play #28, the furthest wide receiver was perilously close to being on the line. The WR next to him appeared to be clearly off the line & okay. The player who caught the ball, #5, was tight & clearly on the line & okay to catch the ball if #28 was also off the line.
     
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  17. iam4uf

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    This is about as good as I could get. In the foreground is #28 more than one yard behind the line of scrimmage in order to be officially off the line? Looks to be a whisker too close...

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  18. BigByte1

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    The TV feed came on after the ball was snapped. 2 wr at the bottom were not on the line when the ball was snapped, they were back 1 yard. 6 on the line and 1 wr on the line at the top. 1 Blocker and punter. #5 Looks to be the right tackle, has already come up out of his stance and is headed out to the flats. Ball is in the hands of the punter(not shone). Looks fishy to me.
     
  19. iam4uf

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    A savvy cornerback could probably ask the line judge to verify whether a receiver is on or off the line just as outside receivers do. Relaying this back to teammates would have to be part of their standard defensive communication.
     
  20. thom1507

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    Stop the youtube replay above at the 34 second mark. Both "bottom" receivers were 2 yards off the ball. There is no question about it.

    There is an unbalanced line to the left with the top WR on the line. This means the last person on the line to the bottom is eligible.
     
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