Donald Trump officially wages war against Florida governor "Ron DeSanctimonious"

The difference between us is I knew Crist was going to lose and didn't claim otherwise on here.

 

An actual quote from the speech:

Hard to imagine a statement reaching out and trying to unify people more than that. What if Obama wasn't the problem here and the issue is that you wanted to bypass the intent of the speech (and skip the first 21 minutes of it) to focus only on the fact that he brought up racial issues in policing and, indeed, in all institutions of American life, which is an opinion based in fact. As if even the recognition that there is racism in the world is dividing, when a lack of recognition that some people face racism would itself be divisive.

 

Yeah, you were really going out on a limb with that one.

 

I truly believe that is a big part of the problem. People don't actually listen to the words that the Dems are saying, only what the Right media mutates it into.

The above is a GREAT speech. Exactly right and looking to unite not divide. But look at the response the poster had calling him the Great Divider for this speech.

 

Exactly. You should have stayed off the limbs too lol.

 

Do you recall MLK's "I have a dream" speech? Would you say that's a speech meant to divide or a speech meant to unite? Because he too spoke of police racism:
"There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, when will you be satisfied? We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities.

We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating: for whites only.

We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote.

No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."

More of that "woke crap," I believe you called it.

 

You guys are absolutely wrong. Listen to his speech. Obama is a push and pull kind of speaker. He butters you up right before he puts you in the fire. I am sure he is super concerned about the plight of inner city folks in Martha's Vineyard.

 

King was a good speaker, but a bit too dramatic for me personally. He was also kind of an a-hole. A foul-mouthed preacher who constantly cheated on his wife and hated gays. He did a lot of good things, but he would have been fairly middle of the road or even conservative compared to our current leaders of the left.

 

Sounds awesome tbh. Can you name some good solutions to real problems our government has put into action in my lifetime? I'm 36.

I admit interstate highways were a good one. Can't think of much else, and they kids stuck the states with the bills

 

Put this feud up next to the budding Rick Scott vs. Mitch McConnell death match and maybe even a Kevin McCarthy gang style execution and I’ll be consuming more news than usual for a while

 

Then what was the intent? We were put in a position that had no answer! You cannot ever understand how helpless we were when the world shutdown. The minute the giving started was...hope. I respect it so much but a few of you think like arrogant stupid self righteous aholes! What can I do to tell the story? I am sick of thos stupid bills hot accusations and expectations. My family and I give so much back to our community that I can safely say.. Thank You to all that found your soul of giving you did well!

Weakness. I had it. Desperation I had it. Strength. I put it forward. I am not weak and my family and are leaders in positivity!

Doubt me? Meet me! Meet my family! First..look in the mirror at your own self. My shadow is so very clear....yours?

 

Now, trump vs DeSantis AND Youngkin

 

Would be interesting to see if DeSantis could push Walker over the finish line.

P.S. Glad to see you guys are still using Twitter full force.

 

Interesting but extremely unlikely. I guess in a way it will be a test of DeSantis influence outside of Florida, keeping in mind the Ron has already campaigned on behalf other Republican candidates outside of Florida including the entire Republican slate (governor, senator, secretary of state and attorney general) in Arizona and all of them have already lost or are losing. Same in Pennsylvania where DeSantis campaigned on behalf of Mastriano and Oz.

While I cannot speak for Georgia Republicans, Walker probably did as well as he did in the general election for two reasons. First, he had the benefit of Brian Kemp's coattails and that won't be the case in the runoff. Although Kemp has endorsed Walker he won't be on the ballot. Secondly, and this is obvious speculation my guess is that a number of Republican voters who didn't think very highly of Walker voted for him anyway to ensure that the Republicans regain control of the Senate. After Nevada is called in favor of Cortez Matso that won't be an issue anymore with the Democrats already guaranteed to retain control of the Senate. In other words the chances are that a fair number of marginal Walker voters will just stay home instead of going to the polls to vote for Herschel.

 

Trump is rapidly making himself irrelevant.

He lashed out initially because he can’t stand the possibility of the media acknowledging any Republican other than him as being capable of winning.

The people he lashed out at are (correctly) just ignoring him and focusing on real things. That’s driving him more crazy and he’s spiraling out of control.

And that has real effects. You’re seeing a substantial proportion of people who are very far to the right and have previously been all in on Trump quickly shift to “I proudly voted for him twice but won’t again. He was the right answer to stop Hillary, but it’s past time for him to STFU and go away.”

 

Agree and disagree. Even if the majority of Republican voters decide that they have had enough of Trump and that still remains to be seen, he has the potential to continue making himself relevant. Said it many times before, Trump's Narcissistic Personality Disorder is such that he will never STFU and go away. If he runs and does not end up with the nomination he will do his best to blowup the party. If he isn't the Republican nominee in 2024 there is the real possibility that he could run as a third party/independent candidate and in a winner-take-all Electoral College system even a relatively small number of votes by a 3rd party candidate in swing states could have affect the outcome of the election and Trump's influence over his supporters is so strong that even if he doesn't run as a third party candidate he could influence enough of them to stay home by suggesting that the election is illegitimate, again affecting the result in a close election.

 

People say that but I'm not sure I buy it. He lost the popular vote to one of the least popular candidates in U.S. history. Twice actually. If the Republicans wouldve put up anyone they'd have won. In my opinion Hillary only came close because people came out to stop Trump in the same fashion people voted for Trump to stop her.

 

I don’t disagree.

But this is the crowd that also hates “country club Republicans” and thinks no one is showing up excited to vote for Jeb Bush (or worse yet John Kasich) - nor would they want that crowd as President anyways. So I suspect what it actually means is they think he was more electable than the folks they like such as Cruz or Rand.

In any event, to the extent they’ve finally seen the light now there’s no benefit to chasing them back to Trump by insisting he’s never been worth anything.