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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ridgetop, Nov 11, 2022.

  1. docspor

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    third parties don't have to win to influence policy. They just need to get X% of the vote where x is somewhat dependent on how close Rs & Ds are. Look at GA. On this thread people took keen interest in a 3rd party that got virtually none of the vote. of course there are other ways. The guy in UT claimed he would not be beholden to either party & LOST
     
  2. rtgator

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    I'm sick to death of this ridiculous "both sides" BS! The OP begins by LYING about President Biden: "Biden lies every time he is in front of a camera or microphone to pander to his base." Not true at all.

    No Dems have ever lied as much as Donald Trump and his GQP suck-ups.

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    No Dems have ever tried to overthrow our democracy like Donald Trump and his GQP traitors.

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  3. Gator715

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    Find me a better one in the world and move there, or don't and accept that no system is perfect and life isn't fair.
     
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  4. wgbgator

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    Even the people who created this system said it shouldnt bind us in perpetuity! The Constitution itself is the result of a failed system (the Articles of Confederation)!
     
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  5. Gator715

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    No politician is honest with you. If you think one side is always lying to you and the other is being completely honest with you, you are more than a little naive.
     
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  6. Gator715

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    If only you were there, I'm sure you would've had the perfect system figured out.
     
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  7. ridgetop

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    I didn’t compare trump to Biden. The fact some on here cannot allow any criticism of Biden without immediately invoking the many many sins of Trump kind of proves my original point..
     
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  8. GCNumber7

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    How does the GA guy getting 2% of the vote going to influence policy?
     
  9. wgbgator

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    If you were there you'd be like "tyrannical monarchy is the best we can do, move if you dont like it."
     
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  10. wgbgator

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    Maybe more gay libertarian guys will start wearing sport coats with cowboy hats now
     
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  11. WC53

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    Smdh that folks think corporate greed is different from pillaging and plundering. Take advantage of who you can and move on. As in all things, balance and well, checks and balances. And propaganda of course.
    Power corrupts, power goes to they’re head, etc, etc, it is all the same, no matter where it is applied. Find someone who doesn’t want a job up the ladder, they might be the best one for it.
     
  12. 14serenoa

    14serenoa Living in Orange and surrounded by Seminoles... VIP Member

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    some of us simply vote against the candidate we dislike the most.
     
  13. Gator715

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    If I was a colonist, I will have already moved... or at least my parents would have already moved... and the red coats will have followed me.
     
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  14. Gatorhead

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    Just read or watch Chomskys Mfg. Consent. Splains everything.
     
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    Hard to argue these points...
     
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  16. rivergator

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    I'm curious your specific problems with the FBI and DOJ.
    thanks
     
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  17. ridgetop

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    Didn’t say I had one. But you have to be blind not see that faith has been eroded and the idea that they are apolitical is skeptical to many.
    But many in America have lost trust. Right or wrong from James clapper to Donald trump to hunter Biden to the Ian 6th trials to the arrest of Mark Houck, after a while it all boils over.
     
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  18. rtgator

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    To follow up my previous post . . . .

    Who has claimed that their side is "completely honest with you"?

    What's naive/dishonest is comparing occasional lying by one side with the biggest LIAR this nation has ever seen (Donald Trump) and equating the two.
     
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  19. rivergator

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    Seems to be a very partisan view that I don't you can attribute to "most normal Americans."
     
  20. ridgetop

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    Can you imagine being a colonist … walking through Ky, Tn, Virginia, and WV before the hillbillie hicks got to it. Virgin forest, untouched river basins.. the Gauly Gorge, Cumberland falls, Clinch Mountains, … and no people to have to talk to.
     
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