They won the SEC and appeared in the Nat Champ game in his second year....its not like they had to suffer too much to give him time for his plan to work.
Is this a joke? "Resource" management has been a part of Nick's "system" since he arrived at Alabama and Kirby brought the advanced version to Athens with him in his backpack.
It's made up but it makes some here feel better about mediocre recruiting and that they know what's going on.
NS recruited well at every one of his college head coaching gigs. Regardless, money to college football players is no longer a sweetener so much as it is the deal.
Right but they lost that game and went another 4 years before they were even playing for it again. So he essentially still took 6 years to win something substantial unless moral victories count. Point was if they had overreacted after a 5 loss 1st year as quick as some around here have they would not have experienced any of that success.
Right Antny. So Kirby comes in to an already loaded roster and starts buying players where before Richt had not been. Or do we believe Richt was also running a pay for play scheme, just not as well? The players Kirby bought didn't flaunt their money so that the players Richt didn't pay would not feel left out? ... All we really know is that it sucks to recruit poorly. To frame this question another way, were we buying defensive players under Muschamp, but only defensive players? Because we could not have landed 5 star DL and DBs without paying... or do we believe those star players forewent pay to play for Muschamp? Nothing the conspiracy theorists project makes sense.
"Conspiracy theory." OK. You have programs throughout history that have been the fall guy. There has been documented evidence of bought players. SMU was shut down. You believe other schools weren't paying? You believe Pell went rogue after learning under Bryant for years? You think Tua up and leaves Hawaii with the whole fam to go to live in Alabama? The whole thing is and has been filthy and it's just a matter of who bears the brunt of the NCAA grandstanding and setting examples. You sound more naive than anyone who acknowledges schools have been buying players for decades. You ignore head coaches like Jimbo who literally acknowledged "these NIL deals have been going on they just weren't legal before." You ignore spurrier who on record made accusations of certain programs? Our very own Fred Taylor claims Georgia paid him for his commitment but never signed with them. Obviously he didn't play at Florida for free if that was the case. No school can be totally clean but there is a difference in institutionalized cheating and rogue boosters stepping up. You can argue that all cheating is the same and it might be but certain programs have gotten away with it and others haven't. Stands to reason that is an advantage and when the ncaa really became feckless because people realized they don't have subpoena power certain programs doubled down on that. Tennessee literally gave money in bags lol but haven't been punished as of yet. FTR I absolutely believe Meyer bought key players here. Percy didn't come here for nothing but Saban changed, or reinstated institutionalized cheating and resource support when he went to bama.
Orr is on record saying our entire team was being paid. Some people just love the fantasy world where honesty and virtue rule the planet.
SEC Championships are hardly insubstantial. They were also in the SEC championship game in 2018 and 2019 and lost, beat Florida every year except 2020 and all the while they were recruiting in the top 3 every year. I don't think the Dwag fans were chewing on their nails worrying that Smart wasn't going to be a successful coach long term after 1 mediocre year. If you told me right now that BN would have the exact same trajectory I would jump for joy.
I would love that trajectory too but the only thing I disagree with is tha puppy fans were probably chewing their entire fingers off in anticipation of getting over that hump. 40 years of near misses had to have them a bit gunshy if ever expecting success. You think we have ptsd over the last 14 years, walk in their shoes a minute.
Eventually a team that is willing to sacrifice principle in order to amass a giant amount of talent and gets themselves to the point where they are "in the game" almost every year will eventually get over the hump. Does it take a bit of luck, absolutely, but when you have lots of swings of the bat, sooner or later that luck will fall your way (Like Alabama's 2 primary receivers getting injured and not playing).
When you win you’re cheating. When you’re losing or not winning to expectations you’re running a clean program or more concerned with character and academics. See Richt, Mark.
