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We need Top 3 recruiting classes…how do we do it?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Nov 6, 2022.

  1. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Top 3?

    Win
     
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  2. ThePlayer

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    "Coaching them up' is not likely with a DC who's already out of his league.
    If we're not going to get the top talent we're going to need top a level OC & DC.
     
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  3. ThePlayer

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    Huh?
    Meyer and Spurrier owned Georgia during their time coaching.
    The poodles recent success is fueled by a 25-year old QB (much like Tennessee).
    This guy won't make it at the next level and was just an after thought to coaches.
    We earn bigger revenues than Georgia so there's no reason we can't compete (once again).
     
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  4. RealGatorFan

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    Recruiting classes = winners. Plain and simple. The stats don't lie. If you go back 40 years, 95% of the champions were either the top recruiting program or were at least Top 5. Even more analytical, look at just the CFP years. The teams with the best classes always compete for the CFP title. Always. Occasionally you get the upstart, but they show up maybe once a decade. They never build on it. Don't believe me, just look at the 4 teams competing every year and where they fall in the recruiting rankings. Pretty simple. Watch LSu as they start putting together Top 5 classes again. Same with Tennessee. And watch FSU. FSU has been poaching our best recruits.

    The portal is the outlier. Subpar recruiting can be offset with the portal but that's changing fast. The teams that start offering bigger and better NIL deals will reap all of the best and leave the 2 stars or walkons for us to take. If we aren't going to play the game, then don't play the game and end the program. Either that or stop trying to the best when you aren't and just be satisfied with 6-6 seasons.
     
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  5. Donzo

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    So, we're bellyaching about recruiting in every forum now?!?
     
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  6. Gatorhead5

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    FSUs class is ranked 19th, with only 15 commits and an average rating of player a full point behind ours.
     
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  7. Gator715

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    I think that's a little idealistic for today's climate of college football.

    It becomes more of a business by the year.

    And ideally, yes, I want guys who want to be Gators. But those top 50, top 100 guys, very frequently are going to the highest bidder. Coach, facilities, tradition, all of the usual stuff still matters in today's game, but money matters a lot more.
     
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  8. Gator715

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    I'm not mad about any of our circumstances right now, but I'm thinking that one of the following needs to happen:
    1. Accept that we're a championship level program, and therefore expect championship level results... and that starts on the recruiting trail. Napier has done well on the trail, but not on the level of LSU, Georgia, or Alabama... all of which are direct obstacles for us for a championship.
    2. Accept that we have our way of doing things, and expect a consistently good team that's top 10-20 every year... but understand that we're fighting with one hand tied behind our backs... and it's just not fair to expect the same output from our coach as we see from Georgia and Alabama, without a willingness to provide the same input.
    3. Most of option two, except hire a boom or bust coach, who is schematically different from what most other teams are doing, that will have great years when everything's clicking, and terrible years as well, and you just have to take the good with the bad. Kind of like those fast-pased offenses that are one dimensional, but will beat you to death with one thing. Think Scott Frost UCF, Chip Kelly Oregon, and maybe Tennessee this year.

    I'm not even saying which one we should pick. Money in college football is just out of control at this point. But our expectations need to match what we're willing to do as a program.
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    I gotta say, it’s very sad, but we’re just not talking about the same game anymore. Perhaps it is time to accept that the good ole days are gone.

    The only plausible way I see to fix it is to implement a “salary cap” with the Power 5 schools. Otherwise, there’s just no semblance of amateur status within this current setup. If all Power 5 schools are capped the same, that will even things up and provide more parity like we are used to. Will schools still cheat? You betcha, but the NCAA really have to throw the hammer down when teams get caught. They no longer have the excuse of players being poor. All benefits are counted against the salary cap and if a team cheats, the penalties are very harsh.
     
  10. Gator715

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    The biggest problem, even moreso than the rules themselves, is the lack of enforcement of the rules on the books; and the selective enforcement of such rules.

    That's been a huge problem with the NCAA for a long time now.

    I truly believe that some schools have been laughing at the NCAA even before NIL.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    Surely, the can see their cash cow slipping away if they don’t properly enforce. But I know what you mean. There are a lot of things that need to come together to rescue this game.
     
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  12. Tgator5

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    Landing Qua Russaw and James Smith would probably seal it.
     
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  13. FranceGator

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    I'm ok with option 2 above. I hate the cesspool. Solution isn't to be as disgusting as the others.
     
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  14. scooterp

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    That is absolutely the problem.

    When you work hard with a kid and his family to help coordinate a solid NIL deal & financial plan to help him down a prosperous path …only to be outbid by a rich guy with a little man complex 48 hrs before announcing … and for twice as much money… I’m out. And I’m ALL on board with UAA tapping out on the BS as well.

    A governing body with some guidelines needs to be involved.
     
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  15. urbangirl

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    Well, it was said for a number of years….facilities. We’ve checked that box. NIL must be the culprit.
     
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  16. doctorg8r

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  17. doctorg8r

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    I believe we will see a lot more wins with a solid and consistent player at qb; which means we have to really recruit at the qb position and not just take the leftovers!
     
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  18. swampspring

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  19. staticgator

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    That’s as ancient history as Georgia Tech winning the SEC.
     
  20. gator10

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    Common misconception.