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Elon Cleaning House

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatormonk, Oct 27, 2022.

  1. citygator

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    I’ve seen people refuse to pay a one time $1.99 fee to stop ads on a game they play on their phone for hours a week then drop $8 a day on a coffee. People are definitely weird about what they’ll pay for.
     
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  2. g8trjax

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    Yeah, it shouldn't bother us when serial liars are called out for a change.
     
  3. citygator

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  4. channingcrowderhungry

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    There are people that are here daily that won't spend the monthly sub for GatorCountry. Shame.
     
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  5. citygator

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    Hey Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run The Content Moderation Learning Curve

    It’s kind of a rite of passage for any new social media network. They show up, insist that they’re the “platform for free speech” without quite understanding what that actually means, and then they quickly discover a whole bunch of fairly fundamental ideas, institute a bunch of rapid (often sloppy) changes… and in the end, they basically all end up in the same general vicinity, with just a few small differences on the margin. Look, I went through it myself. In the early days I insisted that sites shouldn’t do any moderation at all, including my own. But I learned. As did Parler, Gettr, Truth Social and lots of others.

    Anyway, Elon’s in a bit of a different position, because rather than starting something new, he’s taken over a large platform. I recognize that he, his buddies, and a whole lot of other people think that Twitter is especially bad at this, and that he’s got some special ideas for “bringing free speech back,” but the reality is that Twitter was, by far, the most successful platform at taking a “we support free speech” stance for content, and learned over time the many nuances and tradeoffs involved.

    And because I do hope that Musk succeeds and Twitter remains viable, I wanted to see if we might help him (and anyone else) speed run the basics of the content moderation learning curve that most newbies run into. The order of the levels and the seriousness of each can change over time, and how it all fits together may be somewhat different, but, in the end, basically every major social media platform ends up in this same place eventually (the place Twitter was already at when Musk insisted he needed to tear things down and start again).
     
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  8. BLING

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    I dunno, seems like it bothered you.

    The whole schtick from conservatives and the whole motivation for getting behind Musk has been “I’m BeInG cEnSoReD”, when 9/10 times you look at what they were doing and it was spreading bs.

    Now perhaps some of that was more because Twitter was overly broad at censoring vaccine misinformation (just because of the sheer volume), and thus started algorithmically censoring some relative nobodies based on the broad topic of “vaccine misinformation” (treating them essentially same as bots) but it’s not like this is the first time “a lib” on the platform has been censored or there aren’t liberal antivaxxers that were probably also censored.
     
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  9. AndyGator

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    As far as I am concerned Twitter is useless, with or without Musk.
     
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  10. OklahomaGator

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  11. VAg8r1

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    Not a big fan of Lisa Bloom but she makes an interesting point.
     
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  12. BLING

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    As long as they pay the people their due severance/accrued vacation pay, it might not matter.

    If CA requires 60 days notice, but if every employee gets minimum 60 days pay, fundamentally they aren’t harmed *if* they are paid on the way out the door. If he tries to stiff people of vacation pay or doesn’t give them severance while failing the 60 days notice, then yeah that seems pretty clear. I guess it also depends on what constitutes “notice”.
     
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  13. citygator

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    Another example of “F around and find out”. This may be the worlds biggest blunder ever.

     
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  14. g8trjax

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    Yep, companies worried more about being woke...guess they could always advertise on facebook. :emoji_joy:
     
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  15. channingcrowderhungry

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    Or they don't want to work with Musk at this point. He's gotten pretty toxic and erratic with his online persona the last year. And cost his businesses millions of dollars in the process
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Facebook's advertising revenues are about 100x higher than Twitter. Because it is a much better set of platforms for advertisers.
     
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  18. back2back2006

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    Very creative, this is the summer of love I was referring to that you guys never want to talk about.

     
  19. BLING

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    This is horrible! They are going after the revenues! The REVENUES! Have they no humanity? Those activists must be immediately silenced in the name of free speech!
     
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  20. wgbgator

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    Yeah, the thing is no one has actually done anything (except maybe some companies pausing until they figure out what changes are in the making, certainly not at the behest of "activists" unless by that they mean shareholders), and Elon is already making excuses.