Is this the best set of coaches in the SEC East ever?

It's about as good as it could get, but weren't SOS, Urban, and Mark Richt in the East at the same time?

 

And Lane Kiffin.

 

Was Fulmer still at UT with SOS, Urban, and Richt before Lane? If so, three of them won NCs and Richt was at the goal line when time ran out in his quest for one.

 

You’re right. Fulmer was there up to 2008.

 

Which is exactly what Josh Heupel did in year 1 at Tennessee.

 

Well, how do you remove him from that group, He was there, wasn't he? You can't exclude Florida from the list, because their coaches were part of the East. If you're going to exclude Meyer, you need to add in Lou Holtz.

 

And Phillip Fulmer who was at Tennessee for about 16-17 years, I believe.

To me, it's about longevity and/or success at that school. Except for Smart & Stoops, these new guys have not been there long enough at their school to establish themselves. Had Dan Mullen stayed at Florida, he would have been well on his way, too.

When Meyer was at Florida(mid 2000s era), there were a total of three National Title winning coaches in the SEC-East along with four Coaches who had won the SEC Conference title (see below).

Another National Title winning coach (at Notre Dame), Lou Holtz (2000 SEC Coy), was coaching at South Carolina from the mid 1990s to mid 2000s but did not do much with the gamecocks other than going to a few bowl games. For a very long time, the South Carolina job was considered a dead end job before Holtz & Spurrier helped turned around that perception with their successes there.


Steve Spurrier (1990-2001): 7 SEC Titles/8 SEC-E Titles, 1 NC/1NC-RU
7x SEC Coach of Year (UF-1990, 1991, 1994, 1996; USCe-2005, 2010)
2x ACC Coach of Year(Duke-1988, 1989)

Phillip Fulmer (1992-2008): 2 SEC Titles/6 SEC-E Titles, 1 NC
SEC Coach of Year (UT-1998)

Urban Meyer (UF:2005-2010, OSU:2012-2018): 2 SEC Titles/3 SEC-E Titles, 2 NC-UF/3rd NC-OSU; 3 Big Ten Titles/5 BT-Leaders Division Titles..
National Coach of Year (Utah-2003,2004), Coach of the Decade(2009)

Mark Richt (2001-2015): 2 SEC Titles/5 SEC-E Titles and 1 ACC divisional Title.
SEC Coach of Year (UG-2002, 2005), ACC Coach of Year(2017)

Steve Spurrier - Wikipedia
Urban Meyer - Wikipedia
Phillip Fulmer - Wikipedia
Mark Richt - Wikipedia
Lou Holtz - Wikipedia

 

Prior to Spurrier, I believe Holtz did better there than anyone else had since Joe Morrison in the 80s. As far as Beamer being "that far behind", he's way, way behind right now. Spurrier is the winningest coach they've ever had and won 11 games in a season more than once. So far Beamer is 12-9. I think he's a good coach, though. But, that still remains to be seen. He's only been HC for less than two seasons.

 

It's hard to know for sure what Beamer can be because his story is still being written, but I would say he is pretty far from being Spurrier level of success at usce. I know Spurrier kind of flamed out towards the end there, but he won 11 games 3 years in a row. I say this with great confidence, beamer will never pull that off. Beamer may raise the floor of what usce has been and be better than Muschamp, but I highly doubt he ever has 1, 11 win season, much less 3. Beamer is closer to Muschamp than he is Spurrier.

 

Great thread! Thanks!

Remember, Spurrier had USCe at 3-straight 11 win seasons. I don't see Beamer anywhere close to that.

 

I think it way too early in his tenure to say that. While he might never come close to Spurrier, very good chance he's head and shoulders ahead of Muschamp. You must've forgotten what a horrible HC Muschamp was.

 

Shane Beamer needs to dump his friend at OC, before I can agree to this list.

 

You could also say that about Kirby Shart's teams at uga have been better during a decade of futility by UF and Tennessee, and no real challengers in the East during that span as well. His teams are 30-5 against the division teams.

 

From a Gamecock perspective, what do you think of him so far?