Trans care ban backed by Florida medical board

That's not bigoted. It's common sense. Lots of detrans young people would disagree with you. Just look at that woman Chloe's twitter feed. Their bodies have been destroyed by lunatic doctors. Soon they will want to trans babies and I'll be called a bigot for saying it's wrong. Sickos.

 

A recent study found that 98% of the transgender participants continued their gender-affirming care into adulthood. Banning medical care for 98% because of the regret felt by a tiny percentage is stupid policy. And the people pushing this stupid policy are doing so because they're bigots. Chloe made her choice. Her regrets shouldn't impact what choices others have.

The dumbest of slippery slopes. Congrats. That's an accomplishment.

 

One thing that is interesting to me is a Gallup poll I saw reflecting that a narrow majority (51%) of Americans view transitioning as morally wrong. Not just for kids but generally.

Changing One's Gender Is Sharply Contentious Moral Issue

For those people, I'm sure there's no age at which they're going to support anyone transitioning because they think it's simply immoral. I imagine a person like Chloe is good for their side in the same way a person is who says they've successfully converted and are no longer homosexual. That said, I do feel bad for her having gone through a double mastectomy at age 15. That seems young to me to make that decision.

On the other hand, if the parents, doctors, and patient are on the same page, I can also see that argument given concerns about suicide. It's also true that we allow 16 year olds to consent to sex and even to marriage in various states. So we do recognize in those contexts that there is a period of time when teens approaching adulthood are mature enough to make life-changing decisions.

I don't know. But it's really hard to discuss transgender issues when most apparently view it as a moral problem instead of a medical and psychological one.

 

The observation seems to be reaffirmed by this study.
Patient satisfaction following gender reassignment mastectomy in female-to-male transsexual patients: a questionnaire-based analysis using a modified version of the BREAST-Q - PubMed

A second study by a different group of investigators
Transgender and Gender-nonbinary Patient Satisfaction after ... : Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery – Global Open

Chloe Cole was a tragic exception and because one individual received apparently inadequate care it's no reason to deny care to the well over 90 percent for whom it would be beneficial.

 

Democrats must really despise children. They want to make boys girls and girls boys at a young age, but say it's not a good idea to smoke until you're 18. They want to mask the children in schools. Pre-schoolers are still being masked in Philly. They want an open border where child trafficking is rampant. They want to make children get an emergency vaccine that does not benefit them. They hate babies in the womb too. The left are abusers of children.

 

Even conceding that in very rare circumstances children and adolescents who believe that they are transgendered receive inappropriate care it's so called conservatives who really despise children since they want to prohibit any type of medical care for children and adolescents who would benefit from the care and while a good argument can be made that the barrier for irreversible surgery should be very high banning any form of treatment even implicitly simply counseling is way over the top. It's essentially mandating cruelty based on religious beliefs.

 

Yes, those of us who oppose bigoted Republicans denying life-saving care to children are the ones who "despise" kids. Suuuuuuuuuuuure, T.J.

 

Consider as you will, the tragedy of David Reimer, a baby boy originally named Bruce, born in Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1965.

David Reimer - Wikipedia.


"Infancy
David Reimer was born in Winnipeg, Manitoba, on 22 August 1965, the elder of identical twin boys.[3] He was originally named Bruce, and his identical twin was named Brian.[4] Their parents were Janet and Ron Reimer, a couple of Mennonite descent who had married the previous December.[4] At the age of six months, after concern was raised about how both of them urinated, the boys were diagnosed with phimosis.[5] They were referred for circumcision at the age of seven months. General practitioner Dr. Jean-Marie Huot performed the operation using the unconventional method of electrocauterization,[6][7] but the procedure did not go as doctors had planned, and David's penis was burned beyond surgical repair.[8] The doctors chose not to operate on Brian, whose phimosis soon cleared without surgical intervention.[9]

"The parents, concerned about their son's prospects for future happiness and sexual function without a penis, took him to Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore in early 1967 to see John Money,[10] a psychologist who was developing a reputation as a pioneer in the field of sexual development and gender identity, based on his work with intersex patients.[11] Money was a prominent proponent of the "theory of gender neutrality"—that gender identity developed primarily as a result of social learning from early childhood and that it could be changed with the appropriate behavioural interventions.[12] The Reimers had seen Money being interviewed in February 1967 on the Canadian news program This Hour Has Seven Days, during which he discussed his theories about gender.[13]

"At the time, surgical construction of the vagina was more advanced than construction of the penis, and Money believed that Reimer would be happiest in adulthood living as a woman with functioning genitalia.[14][15] Additionally, for Money, a case where identical twin boys were involved where one could be raised as a girl provided a perfect test of his theories.[16][17]

"Money and the Hopkins family team persuaded the baby's parents that sex reassignment surgery would be in Reimer's best interest.[18] At the age of 22 months, David underwent a bilateral orchidectomy, in which his testes were surgically removed and a rudimentary vulva was fashioned.[19] David was reassigned to be raised as female and given the name Brenda (similar to his birth name, "Bruce").[20] Psychological support for the reassignment and surgery was provided by[21] John Money, who continued to see Reimer annually[22] for consultations and to assess the outcome.[23] This reassignment was considered an especially important test case[24] of the social learning concept of gender identity for two reasons: first, Reimer's identical twin brother, Brian, made an ideal control because the brothers shared genes, family environments, and the intrauterine environment; second, this was reputed to be the first reassignment and reconstruction performed on a male infant who had no abnormality of prenatal or early postnatal sexual differentiation.[1]"
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The Wikipedia article continues with bizarre and disturbing details about the life of a troubled young Brenda, her dissatisfaction and subsequent reversal to a male identity, and the immoral and unethical experiments conducted with twin brother Brian, who died of a drug overdose at age 36. David committed suicide at age 38.

 

Man raised as a girl after losing penis to circumcision commits suicide

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+reimer

 

Life saving care? There is some sort of mental disability going on here.

 

Evidence-based, life-saving care. That is why the major medical associations back it. But I'm sure you know better. After all, you have an M.D. from the Youtube College of Medicine, right?

 

Trans teens to young adults that receive gender affirming care are 73% less likely to attempt suicide. So yes, it's life saving care.

Remember, for a teen to be prescribed puberty blockers, they need to show gender dysphoria for years. Not days, weeks, or months, but years of presenting as the opposite gender. Things like therapy plus puberty blockers in some cases absolutely reduces suicide attempts.

Sure, there are and will be a few cases where things go wrong. But medicine tries to do the most good for the most people. You don't let the exceptions be the rule.

I suffer from allergies and years ago, was prescribed Claritin before it went OTC. It made me high as a kite, which is about a 1 in 10,000 side effect. Should this drug be pulled because it doesn't work for me? Of course not. It's quite effective, and I have other options, including Allegra.

Point is, if we only prescribed treatments based on a minority of poor outcomes, there would be no treatments available. With gender dysphoria, the treatment that works best, and what is standard of care should be what doctors are allowed to do. Politicians should not be involved.

 

I do not care what you do, as long as the tax payer doesn't have to pay for it.

 

"Believe everything goes and there are no boundaries or you are an anti freedom bigot."

Yeah, we get it. You live in the extreme on such topics and we will all sleep fine at night.

 

You support a man who is hostile to free speech and the rights of LGBTQ people. Government is a tool he uses to oppress those he sees as his "enemies." It's not surprising either. You supported Donald Trump despite it being clear at the time exactly what sort of man he was. And now, you're here defending Ron as he intentionally seeks to harm children.

 

Thank you Doctor lawyer.

We see what harms children quite different. Again, I'll sleep fine tonight.

 

Are these doctors and psychologists knowledgeable enough for you? Or do you know better than them?
AMA reinforces opposition to restrictions on transgender medical care
Leave gender-affirming care to medical experts—not politicians
Statement from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Oklahoma Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics on Gender-Affirming Care
Florida pediatricians reject state guidance on gender care | wtsp.com

There's something really wrong with people who want to harm children simply because they're different. I could forgive lack of understanding if the people who didn't understand were simply content to disagree and let others make their own choices.

But they can't do that. Instead, they want to impose their bigotry and ignorance on doctors, parents, and children. The net result will be harm to kids. It's evil.

 

Medical professionals should be free to treat their patients according to widely accepted practices in their respective fields. That should be the standard of care and a place where all doctors and nurses start from. Politicians should not get in the way.

 

Yeah, and the net result of those who do have surgeries and make the change is still debated in medical circles.

This study showed no change in the already higher suicide rate regardless of stage of transition:
Trends in suicide death risk in transgender people: results from the Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria study (1972–2017)

This one showed issues with a previous study:
Correction of a Key Study: No Evidence of “Gender-Affirming” Surgeries Improving Mental Health

 

1. The major medical associations have offered their verdicts. Yet, you think you know better. Do you think you know all the studies out there better than they do?
2. The doctors who don't feel confident in gender-affirming care are welcome not to prescribe it.