Employers in NYC and California will soon have to post salary ranges on job postings

Lol.
1. Fine... if a (copy and paste) email is such a burden, I dont want you working for me anyway. This takes away a companies RIGHT to sell it's mission, work/life balance, other benefits, personality etc as now it just becomes all about money.
I list the pay, bit am totally against having any strategic hands tied by being forced to

2. I get to say whatever I wish. EVERY politician lives and dies on overreach

 

I mean that hurts the company too. Most companies wont hide this info, from fear of wasting their time too.

It just should not be required to be posted at the very first glance.

Silliness.

 

Not every person makes work decisions based purely on money. I know because I don't. But the people who do base those decisions on money should be able to self-select out. It's a win for everybody.

 

Who has to go through weeks?
You ask up front. If they wont answer, thank them for their time.

I have been a business owner and managed businesses my whole adult life. I have never once been turned off by someone asking what the pay is. They have families to support.

 

You don't speak for everybody.

 

When did I say I did? You're the guy in here upset because pro-worker legislators are passing laws that are pro-worker. Nice for democracy to work in those states.

 

According to the article its not uncommon. The reason employers hate it is because the ones underpaying will have to compete on salary. Way more transparency in the labor market.

 

that’s the part they don’t like..

 

Not "upset" . I post my pay. Just dont think it needs to be legislated

 

They still have to compete. Unless "no" isnt an option for workers?

 

Workers have the ultimate bargaining power. They turn down bad offers or resign for better ones. This is window dressing.

 

Its not just about one employer. Knowing what all employers are offering in that field means employers have to compete with other employers for workers. That's why they hate it, ignorance and secrecy benefit them in that they can get people to work for less money because someone didnt spend months interviewing to find out what everyone was offering to make a decision.

 

That's their only power, but the whole structure of society is built to coerce people into working, because you know, things cost money. And if workers are competing for work, that's bad for workers, so the power to say "no" doesnt mean much for the majority of people. This isnt commie stuff, Adam Smith argued that policies that benefit workers are just because of this state of affairs lol.

 

if we went back and rescinded every pro worker legislation passed that conservatives have disagreed with historically, we’d be back in the era of slavery..

 

So, its an employers fault if a employee didn't do research? Glassdoor is a thing. There's a lot of easy free info out there.

 

I see no harm whatsoever from requiring that a range be posted. Especially for jobs that should be 100% straightforward on salary or don’t have much opaqueness from bonuses and such.

If the best argument is “it’s useless” or “employers will find ways around it” then there is no reason to be opposed, those are essentially non-arguments.

 

How is this even a political debate? My guess is a lot of people on differing political sides see this both ways?

The employees have ultimate power. If enough people turn me down, I will reexamine my benefit structure.

If people are lining up, I likely won't.
They still possess the ultimate power to take a job or not.

 

I think the best argument is it handicaps start ups, non profits and small businesses from being able to sell themselves before money shuts their door.

I dont support dragging people along, but no one is forced to be dragged.

You are in control in an interview. They are a two way street. Get the info you need or say thanks, but this isnt a good fit.

 

They have every right to sell those things in the job posting and continue to sell them to those who self-select into the interview process. Nobody has taken away their right to do that.

 

You are asking interviewees to make decisions based on incomplete information rather than have the company provide full information. The only way it hurts those companies is if you argue that they should be allowed to strategically mislead candidates.