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State Supreme Court reinstates employees fired for refusing vaccine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by flgator2, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. flgator2

    flgator2 Premium Member

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    State Supreme Court reinstates employees fired for refusing vaccine (wnd.com)

    Finding that "being vaccinated does not prevent an individual from contracting or transmitting COVID-19," the New York State Supreme Court ordered the reinstatement of all New York City employees who were fired for not being vaccinated for the disease.

    Earlier this year, after adopting a vaccine mandate under former Mayor Bill de Blasio, the city fired about 1,400 employees – including many police officers and firefighters – for being unvaccinated. The city's current mayor, Eric Adams, said the employees fired for their COVID-19 vaccination status would not be rehired.

    "If you're gonna follow the science, science is gonna tell you there isn't any danger right now and putting hundreds of firefighters, police officers, and other emergency workers out of work is not in the best interest of the city. It's not safe," he said.

    'Up to date with her vaccines'
    The science, moreover, as the court concluded Monday, shows the COVID-19 shots do not stop infection or transmission, which is the premise for any mandate.
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    Very misleading story. To be accurate, it was a trial court that ordered the reinstatement. Unlike the Federal court system or virtually every other state court system in New York the highest level appellate court in not the Supreme Court. In New York State, the trial court is called the Supreme Court. The highest level appellate court iin New York State is the Court of Appeals and as matter of record the City is appealing the decision.
    New York City appeals judge's ruling that could reinstate fired unvaccinated employees
    Edit: I would also add that at least for now the only workers who are being reinstated are the named petitioners in the lawsuit.
    New York State judge reinstates fired sanitation workers who did not comply with New York City's vaccination mandate
    Edit 2: What is "funny" is that OP didn't bother to do any research and he probably assumed that under the ruling the City would be immediately reinstating every terminated worker.
     
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  3. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    lets ask the cdc director who is twice vaxed, twice boosted, and now has covid how well the vaccines work.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    Considering that the primary benefit of vaccines and boosters is the prevention of serious infections requiring hospitalization or even resulting in death I would say the vaccines work quite well. From the link.
     
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  6. OklahomaGator

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    I agree with you on this. But the vaccine does not prevent infection. I am fully vaccinated and up do date on all boosters and I still tested positive. My symptoms were very mild and I recovered in 3-4 days.
     
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  7. mrhansduck

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    "The science, moreover, as the court concluded Monday, shows the COVID-19 shots do not stop infection or transmission, which is the premise for any mandate."

    If that was the sole basis for the requirement, it certainly doesn't seem to apply at least at this point. I suppose one could make an argument that reducing the severity of illness impacts readiness for city workers and first responders, but maybe that wasn't argued.
     
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  8. GatorRade

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    Yes I think this makes sense. I think the main argument for government involvement is transmissibility, as this makes the virus a communal problem rather than an individual problem.
     
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  9. buckeyegator

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    but walensky said if you get the vaccine you will not get covid,liar
     
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  11. ncargat1

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    If she is not in the hospital or dead, then I would say her answer will be "exactly like they are supposed to". Just a shame so many Americans are too poorly educated to understand that.
     
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  12. gator_lawyer

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    I'm chuckling that the news source in the OP didn't know that New York's high court is the New York Court of Appeals. :emoji_joy:
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    They may have known. They just bet their readers didn't (correctly).
     
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  14. flgator2

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    It never did work as they sold it to, they just keep moving they goal post, and gullible people like him will keep doubling down and get another jab after jab.
     
  15. flgator2

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    Chuckle away, story still true. I chuckle at you and your beliefs all the time
     
  16. flgator2

    flgator2 Premium Member

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    I'm happy that for you and gatorlawer found something negative about the post, you poor fellas must be struggling if that's all you got
     
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  18. AndyGator

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    You do understand that you validated exactly what he said, right?
     
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  19. back2back2006

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    Hahahaha, so the wannabe dictator Obiden gets crushed yet again.
     
  20. VAg8r1

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    When the vast majority of Americans see the term "Supreme Court" they assume it was highest appellate court in the state. While technically accurate (the trial court in New York is called the "Supreme Court") the story was almost certainly intentionally deceptive with the intent being to create the illusion that the state's highest court ruled the policy of terminating employees who refused the vaccine was improper and mandating that the all of those terminated be reinstated. The only problem is that the decision was made by a trial level court in Staten Island, not the highest level appellate court in the state, it's being appealed by the City and the decision actually affects only those workers who filed the lawsuit, not every worker terminated for refusing to comply with the vaccine mandate.
     
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