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Herschel Walker Thread

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8tas, Jun 16, 2022.

  1. VAg8r1

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    Should have mentioned this sooner and this time I'm very serious. While churches and other charitable organizations provide benefits to the needy this is why they cannot be relied upon as the sole source of assistance for the needy and I speak as one who used to volunteer packaging food at a food pantry for low income households. Despite the desire to help, in contrast to the government their resources are far more limited.
    Local food pantries are in danger of running out of food
    Virginia Food Banks Seek Support Amid High Inflation, Supply-Chain Issues
    Food banks, local pantries are running out of food | wtsp.com (Tampa)
    You may also want to read this essay
    Can the Church Alone Provide Welfare for the Poor?
    This is about the Mormon church which to its credit does provide a significant amount of assistance to the needy and it cannot even fulfill of the needs of the poor.
    Why the LDS Church Welfare System Cannot Replace Government Assistance
     
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  2. citygator

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    I think churches are a great idea. They can build roads, give subsidies to farmers, maintain airports so those with money and business can travel, monitor toxins in water sources. Great idea.
     
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  3. AgingGator

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    Well I guess if your head was in his lap you could call what Biden said criticism. But you would have to overlook a lot of “buts” to get there.
     
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  4. AgingGator

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    Good thing you have that electron microscope to split hairs. It might help you find the line between the protests and the riots in 2020.
     
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  5. danmanne65

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    Protestors are people acting peacefully rioter are those burning down stuff.

    thing I have problem telling the difference of is people trying to overturn an election and good patriots gathering in Washington.
     
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  6. Orange_and_Bluke

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    But govt already does help the needy. I didn’t say church should be the sole source of assistance.
     
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  7. defensewinschampionships

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    You’re better than this. Rioters in the capitol and peaceful protestors burning down businesses are of the same ilk.
     
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  8. danmanne65

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    Yes they are but people gathering to protest without burning down businesses is a protected activity.
     
  9. defensewinschampionships

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    Agree, but unfortunately, a few bad actors can turn a peaceful protest into a mob. In both cases, IMO
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Although you didn't say so directly you strongly implied that churches if not the sole source of assistance to the needy should be the primary source.
     
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  11. gator95

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    What part of "NO MORE" Govt programs was hard to understand? That itself means there is current Govt programs.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    His statement could also be reasonably construed to mean no more additional funding or expansion of current government programs meaning that even if the need increases the ability of the government to provide assistance should not be increased to meet the additional need.
     
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  14. ursidman

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    No more could also mean the same as the NO More uttered by the repentant drunk hanging over the toilet. Lots of degrees of No More.
     
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  15. AgingGator

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    The moment a fire is lit, on anything, it is no longer a “peaceful protest”. At a minimum the torch is meant to intimidate. At a maximum it is a weapon. It is like walking around carrying a loaded gun with you finger on the trigger.
     
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  16. enviroGator

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    So you were against the tiki torch crew from Charlottesville?
     
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  17. AgingGator

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    Yes, absolutely. No peaceful justification for it.
     
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  18. Sohogator

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    Those were good people. Right skin tone.
     
  19. rivergator

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    If there's 5,000 people protesting peacefully, and one person lights a torch, does that mean it's a riot and everyone is guilty?
     
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  20. Tjgators

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    thats racist