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In 2020, Portland decriminalized hard drugs...

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by back2back2006, Oct 23, 2022.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Is it cheaper because it’s been cut? Lol,
    I watched a bit of Ozark last night.
     
  2. rivergator

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    Then please explain why home prices in SF are so high if there's not a line of people willing to pay those kind of prices?
     
  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Lol, here is some more info for ya. People aren’t in love with libbie policy as much as you think they are.
    California ranks second in the country for outbound moves — a phenomenon that has snowballed during the pandemic, according to a report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, which tracked data from moving company United Van Lines. Between 2018 and 2019, California had an outbound move rate of 56%. That rate rose to nearly 60% in 2020-21.

    California exodus continues, with L.A., San Francisco leading the way: 'Why are we here?'
     
  5. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Try answering the question
     
  6. Orange_and_Bluke

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    That was never the point. Nice try.
     
  7. demosthenes

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    To be clear, Oregon decriminalized possession of small amounts of certain hard drugs. In other words, it’s a citation like a traffic violation for users. The hard drugs are not legal nor are dealers or drug makers operating in the decriminalized realm.
     
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  8. demosthenes

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    All the west coast cities have affordability issues. Couple that with a high proportion of tech jobs allowing remote working (one company even incentivized its employees with a 10% pay reduction but they could move anywhere). The primary driver in cost of living is housing and that is a result of demand exceeding supply. That tells me they’re still highly attractive places to live but people on the margins will feel pushed out or the cost not worth benefits.
     
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  9. gaterzfan

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    Portland's population growth declines, data shows | kgw.com


    “Despite the data, not everyone is leaving or planning to move. KGW spoke with a few Multnomah County residents who plan on sticking around, but understand why some might choose to leave and go elsewhere.

    "I'm not really surprised. It's gotten really expensive to live here," said Paul Faber. "And then, of course, all the break-ins and thefts. People have had it."

    "Things have obviously changed," said Nicole Koffler. "It's been a really significant impact of what we love about Oregon, or specifically, about Portland."”
     
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  10. defensewinschampionships

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    Honestly, the ATF should be dissolved and then those agents hired for the DEA. Then you would have enough agents to regulate whatever drugs you wanted.
     
  11. citygator

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    How will Salt Lake City manage rise of homeless camps amid growing need?

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  12. defensewinschampionships

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    It is kind of sad that homelessness is being this politicized. Obviously, throwing money at it doesn't solve the problem. Neither does ignoring. Not sure either party has done an ounce of good here (at the federal level).
     
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    I see people that are quite obviously homeless sitting on chairs outside retail plazas in the suburbs now, they are there almost everyday. They aren't really bothering anyone or panhandling (though there are always people panhandling at the freeway exit where cars line up at a light). Its quite obviously a problem of capitalism, and the only real approaches our capitalist society has is either trying to sweep it under the rug or letting it be in the open as long as they aren't bothering anyone. But the visibility quite obviously bothers conservatives and many liberals (and its easy to demagogue the problem as 'crime'), so the former approach nearly always wins (police busting up camps and dispersing them & homelessness being defacto criminalized). Lots of urban areas have introduced hostile architecture so people cant sleep on benches, and public restrooms are deliberately scarce or non-existent too, which means people end up going in the streets.
     
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    Until it’s all legalized and made affordable there will continue to be drug arrests and governments will do whatever it can to force people to get with their program or go to jail. Same thing only different.
     
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    Ruth and I are close. Be careful.
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    What is a "libbie city?" What evidence do you have that "people are moving out of liberal run cities"? Is this happening more than in non-libbie cities (again, whatever that means)? What evidence do you have that libbie cities promote crime and homelessness? Is that a libbie thing, or is that an urban thing?
     
  18. Orange_and_Bluke

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    San Francisco is a conservative city?
    Seattle is a conservative city? These are libbie metro areas and it’s not disputed.
    Come on davis, you the man but…damn.
    California exodus continues, with L.A., San Francisco leading the way: 'Why are we here?'
    S.F. exodus: More people say they intend to leave than in any other major metro area
     
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  20. citygator

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    I have no idea what the solution to drugs is. People use abuse and die with them legal or illegal. Short of setting up a police state there may not be a solution to protect a free society from making bad decisions.
     
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