If Seattle and Portland are such hell holes, why are home prices there so much higher than the national average?
I didn’t say that, and I don’t think anyone did. I am showing that it’s a major issue in highly liberal cities. Why aren’t you proud of these consequences? It’s what you are voting for.
Who’s to say they not working when those cities are still sought-after places to live? Apparently much more sought-after than the US average ..
Reread my post and see if you can understand my point which you seemed to have completely missed by a mile.
How are you so sure about that? Oct. 13, 2022 Updated: Oct. 15, 2022 6:05 p.m. SF has biggest percent of people looking to move, how other cities compare. During the pandemic, nearly 55,000 people moved out of San Francisco in a single year — more than 6% of its population.Oct 15, 2022 S.F. exodus: More people say they intend to leave than in any other major metro area
I think the state of Oregon decriminalized possession of hard drugs in 2020 - and not just Portland? Perhaps Oregon will see greater use and addiction at least in the short term if people experiment that otherwise would not have. But what about the overdose crisis? The most recent CDC numbers I see for fatal overdoses only goes back to 2020, so I'm not sure what we can conclude at this point. In 2020, the overdose death rate was 18.7 for Oregon, which was ranked the twelfth lowest. West Virginia was the worst with a rate of 81.4, followed by Kentucky at 49.2. To be fair, I don't know how permissive or strict the drug laws are in those states where the highest rate of people have been dying. Drug Overdose Mortality by State
This is from a few years ago, just recently they took the next step and are building homes for the homeless. A decade ago, Utah set itself an ambitious goal: end chronic homelessness. As of 2015, the state can just about declare victory: The population of chronically homeless people has dropped by 91 percent. The state's success story has generated headlines around the country, and even The Daily Show With Jon Stewart looked to Utah to understand how the state achieved its goal.
That’s great and all but when government gets involved in the manufacture and distribution of drugs they often increase prices and add taxes. They also limit the actual drug content per dose. Street dealers sell cheaper and don’t limit the dosage levels. So if it’s not illegal why not buy from a street dealer cheaper and more potent? That’s my issue with legalization of hard drugs.
Which is consistent with a theory that people left expensive cities when remote work was easily available to save money. Since the Summer of 2020, moving out of San Francisco has returned to historic norms. The population recovery may not happen as quickly due to the sharp cut in immigration that happened and is still happening due to draconian rules both in the US and in places like China, but the process of moving out has returned to the stable, pre-pandemic norms. San Francisco’s Pandemic Exodus May Be Over, New Analysis Finds
Took the family to SLC last Christmas. Beautiful city. Didn't see any tent cities but there were a lot of homeless people on the TRAX system. Homelessness is rising in Utah — but not in Salt Lake County
Illegal dealers will not sell cheaper because their cost of capital is so much higher. A legal service will be able to undercut an illegal service because they would be able to obtain financing from legal entities, like banks for debt or hedge funds for equity financing, rather than having to obtain it through something like the Russian laundry or its many offshoots. Giant money laundering operations charge very high rates for capital compared to a regular bank. So if you need to invest in capital for business, it will fundamentally cost more to do it from an illegal business than a legal one. In addition, the cost of labor is going to be higher as well, because you need to pay people for the risk of going to jail, whereas you can hire a regular employee without that risk for a legal business. That said, governments do need to be careful not to over-tax the product such that it completely wipes out the benefits of this cheaper cost of capital. They need to split the gains with companies. But I think the comparable is alcohol when it was legalized, and the illegal dealers were dealt a very heavy blow and were wiped out in relatively short order from the markets.
I have Florida friends that buy marijuana from Colorado because it’s cheaper per mg. I realize that isn’t a hard drug. What government agencies are going to provide crack, crystal meth, and PCP? Shrooms?
Government agencies shouldn't provide it. They should regulate it. Private entities should provide it.
Median home sale price in SF is $1.4 million, a little less than $1 million more than the national median. You don't those prices unless people are willing to pay it to live there.
No, but they should. Illegal markets for drugs are one of the worst policies in this country. The spillover effects from this are some of the most expensive and destructive issues facing this country. It has led to the militarization of the police, the further stratification of society based on race and class in terms of how one is treated before the law in practice, massively increased the rate of violence in the country, and built huge criminal organizations, funded by a geopolitical foe. All while failing to stop the massive growth of drug addiction in the country.
Good grief. How are you not following? People are moving out of liberal run cities. I know that those cities have nice areas too. But libbie cities promote crime and homelessness too. It’s all in the links.
How can the home prices stay so high if everyone is leaving and no one wants to move in? Hint: They can't.
Everyone isn’t leaving but at a higher rate than other metros. That’s the point. You’re moving goal posts is awesome though.
