Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Stacey Abrams...lower than dirt

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ThePlayer, Sep 22, 2022.

  1. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,795
    1,066
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    @rajinGator may not recover from that.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  2. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    16,949
    5,805
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    I think we all would agree that in an ideal world, we could live in a society where race doesn't matter. But Thurgood Marshall is 100% right. Demanding colorblindness in our current world only leaves those who have been punished for their race to continue to bear the costs of that.

    The idea that "the left" has "flipped" what MLK sought is the sort of fiction that right-wing Republicans tell themselves to justify voting for the party that around 90% of Black voters usually vote against. "The left" is fighting for the genuine equality that MLK demanded. We don't have to cherry pick one sentence out of one speech to justify our beliefs.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2022
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

    1,044
    275
    1,783
    Apr 10, 2020
    North Florida
    Rajingator probably doesn’t have weeks to spend reading that post.
     
  4. littlebluelw

    littlebluelw GC Hall of Fame

    6,334
    825
    2,068
    Apr 3, 2007
    pontificate and bloviate are two words that come to mind.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. back2back2006

    back2back2006 GC Legend

    900
    1,201
    288
    Mar 1, 2017
    Shallotte, NC
    Do they believe the mental illness that a man just thinking he's a woman is automatically a woman, genetics and science be damned?
     
    • Off-topic Off-topic x 1
  6. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

    35,384
    1,747
    2,258
    Apr 8, 2007
    That makes no sense. The discussion was about when an actual heartbeat is detected in a fetus.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  7. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    4,255
    706
    2,938
    Nov 19, 2016
    That contingent always quotes MLK and uses him as an example of who more people should be like, when the reality is they'd be calling him a woke, race-baiting libbie if he was alive today.
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

    1,044
    275
    1,783
    Apr 10, 2020
    North Florida
    I’m not arguing, I’m just explaining why I’m right. He needs that shirt.
     
  9. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    16,949
    5,805
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    About what I expected in terms of rebuttal. When you can't dispute the words of the man himself, we get impotent posts like these.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  10. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    16,949
    5,805
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    Don't forget a "Marxist" and a "socialist." Hell, their "conservative" predecessors were saying that when he was alive.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,718
    1,789
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    And complaining about how there is always more violence when he shows up.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  12. littlebluelw

    littlebluelw GC Hall of Fame

    6,334
    825
    2,068
    Apr 3, 2007
    Well counselor while I agree with much of what you posted IRT MLK it was still bloviating and pontificating IMO.
     
  13. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    16,949
    5,805
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    If setting the record straight on MLK's views of equality requires that, so be it.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. homer

    homer GC Hall of Fame

    2,651
    828
    2,078
    Nov 2, 2015

    The north won the civil war and were in control. Why didn’t those in control treat AAs the same as white Europeans?


    Honest question
     
  15. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    16,949
    5,805
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    Because they were racist as hell too. (Although, it's worth noting that the President at the time of the end of the Civil War was a Southerner, Andrew Johnson.) Even Lincoln was a white supremacist.
     
  16. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    15,840
    2,047
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    It was a pretty substantial political fight at the time. "Radical Republicans" fought for many policies that were at least closer to equality (resisted by Johnson- who was himself basically a Southern Democrat that Lincoln had run with as a unification ticket before his assassination). Meanwhile, Southern Democrats tried to argue that any black people born before 1868 were not eligible for citizenship based on Dredd Scott. But you had things like the Mississippi government sending black Senators to the US Senate at the time, as the reconstruction government was heavily African American. Eventually, heavily through violence such as the Battle of Liberty Place in New Orleans as well as a variety of large and small acts of political violence, and driven by a heavily contested Presidential election, white Southerners re-established control and ended Reconstruction and established Jim Crow.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  17. rajinGator

    rajinGator Moderator VIP Member

    14,319
    2,102
    1,778
    Apr 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Except I don't see what you posted as a refutation to my original statement. My claim was we as a society (ushered by the Left) have come to a point where skin color is the most important aspect of a person and ironically goes against what MLK aspired. Do you believe we should be characterized by the color of our skin and not our inward substance? I don't. And how was I "attacking him"???
     
  18. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    16,949
    5,805
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    Okay, how have we "come to a point where skin color is the most important aspect of a person"? Offer examples of this. How has "the Left" "ushered" this in?
     
  19. defensewinschampionships

    defensewinschampionships GC Hall of Fame

    6,275
    2,400
    1,998
    Sep 16, 2018
    Can you agree with most of what he said and disagree with some? Or does that make you less than desirable?
     
  20. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    16,949
    5,805
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    I didn't disagree with everything he said. I disagreed with the bold:
    Why? Because I expect he's talking about affirmative action and DEI initiatives. I already posted quotes to demonstrate why claiming MLK opposed those sorts of things is manifestly dishonest.