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Stacey Abrams...lower than dirt

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ThePlayer, Sep 22, 2022.

  1. ridgetop

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    You make a ton of assumptions and accusations in this rant that you absolutely cannot back up. It reads as borderline manic.
     
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  2. magnetofsnatch

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    That guy is interesting. I would quote his reply but the screen isn’t big enough. In my first reply to him I commented on the assumptions and he literally tripled down on them here.
     
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    He definitely has a lot of hate he internalizes would be my “assumption”. Take a walk or something.
     
  4. fda92045

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    Yeah he has a lot of "hate" when you're the one that made the racist post....
     
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    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    Haha ok. I’ll take your words as the final arbiter of my intent.
     
  6. AgingGator

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    He will be pleased when he thinks that you have chosen to acquiesce. Now he can go back to the safe space of his echo chamber.
     
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  7. fda92045

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    Do you think that same assumption would have been made if Stacy Abrams was white?
     
  8. ridgetop

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    Probably not… considering Yale got hit for discriminating acceptance practices against whites and Asians. Leta be clear.. it is likely that Yale has/had lower standards for AA and or women at that time. It also does not mean SA is stupid or undeserving.
    Claiming SA probably had a lower LSAT score than others in YAle Law School is not racist… unless you consider Affirmative Action to be racists.
    She has made plenty of asinine statements that can be hammered and criticized- LSAT scores isn’t something that should be.
     
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  9. fda92045

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    Actually yes, using the assumption she only got in because of AA is in fact racist. Also that discrimination thing was dropped (it was brought by the Trump admin lol) and was against undergrad admissions.

    But y'all keep trying to spin your way out of it rather than just own it.
     
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  10. ridgetop

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    So Affirmative Action is racist? Schools having lower qualifications for minority students is racists? Did/does Yale have lower standards for Black students applying to Yale Law School? If so is that racists? If not, then his assumption isn’t racists.
    He could be making the assumption that she got in with lower scores due to the fact that she has made several dumb political moves and statements over the years.
     
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    Actually, assuming that an individual had lower scores because of her race because they would have possibly been willing to admit her with lower scores is racist. A lower standard for admission in no way informs us of what her scores actually were.
     
  12. ridgetop

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    Did he say he thought she had lower scores because of her race? One could assume she had lower scores based on the political gaffes she has made over and over. Did he say it was her race that had lower scores? No.
    The fact that schools allow lower scores from minorities seems to be racists though. Does the school assume the bl Al students can’t keep up with the Asian students and the white students?
     
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    Except, he was obliquely referring to her race multiple times (all his stuff about why she got into Yale but he wouldn't have been able to do so). But sure, he wasn't at all considering her race, while he referred to her race.

    Affirmative action was started because the notion is that black students faced structural hurdles that students of other races didn't face, which led to students of the same ability scoring lower on tests. You have to ignore a lot of history to not acknowledge this possibility.
     
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    Absolutely. You obviously have no idea who you are asking that question of.
     
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    Great post. I could give a crap whether Stacy Abrams is black or white. Nor do I care if she graduated from Yale or Savannah Tech. What matters is that she is a whack job liberal who is a terrible politician.

    The good news is that in just over two weeks, she will more than likely lose another election. The only question is whether or not she claims she lost due to voter suppression as she did in 2018.
     
  16. gator_lawyer

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    The schools would actually be assuming the opposite, but keep on digging that hole of yours deeper.
     
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    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

    Interesting how the modern day Left has completely flipped that sentiment.

     
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    Don't quote MLK when you know next to nothing about the man outside of one sentence from that speech. He was talking about HIS Black children. MLK fully supported affirmative action. It is insulting to bring up a man martyred for real equality in order to undermine everything he stood for.
    The Forgotten Teachings of Martin Luther King - by Paul Rockwell / Human & Civil Rights /In Motion Magazine
     
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    For decades and until recently that quote and "I Have a Dream" speech have been used as what should be the standard of equality in America. Quite obviously in 1963 he was imploring us to disregard skin color and value people by their inward substance. I'm with MLK on this one. He didn't want every issue to be so drastically racialized.
     
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    You're not with MLK on "this one." These quotes from MLK could not be clearer:
    1. "Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree, but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic."

    2. "A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro..."

    3. "Anatole France once said: 'The law in its majestic equality forbids all men to sleep under benches -- the rich as well as the poor...France's sardonic jest expresses a bitter truth. Despite new laws, little has changed...The Negro is still the poorest American -- walled in by color and poverty. The law pronounces him equal -- abstractly -- but his conditions of life are still far from equal."

    4. "Something positive must be done... In 1863 the Negro was told that he was free as a result of the Emancipation Proclamation. But he was not given any land to make that freedom meaningful. And the irony of it all is that at the same time the nation failed to do anything for the black man -- through an act of Congress it was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and Midwest -- which meant that it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor...Not only that, it provided agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, as the years unfolded it provided low interest rates so that they could mechanize their farms. And to this day thousands of these very persons are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies every year not to farm.

    And these are so often the very people who tell Negroes that they must lift themselves by their own bootstraps...

    We must come to see that the roots of racism are very deep in our country, and there must be something positive and massive in order to get rid of all the effects of racism and the tragedies of racial injustice."

    And MLK was not alone. Thurgood Marshall said:
    1. "It is because of a legacy of unequal treatment that we now must permit the institutions of this society to give consideration to race in making decisions about who will hold the positions of influence, affluence, and prestige in America. For far too long, the doors to those positions have been shut to Negroes. If we are ever to become a fully integrated society, one in which the color of a person's skin will not determine the opportunities available to him or her, we must be willing to take steps to open those doors. I do not believe that anyone can truly look into America's past and still find that a remedy for the effects of that past is impermissible."

    2. "Obviously, I too believe in a colorblind society; but it has been and remains an aspiration. It is a goal toward which our society has progressed uncertainly, bearing as it does the enormous burden of incalculable injuries inflicted by race prejudice and other bigotry, which the law once sanctioned, and even encouraged. Not having attained our goal, we must face the simple fact that there are groups in every community, which are daily paying the cost of the history of American injustice. The argument against affirmative action is but an argument in favor of leaving that cost to lie where it falls. Our fundamental sense of fairness, particularly as it is embodied in the guarantee of equal protection under the law, requires us to make an effort to see that those costs are shared equitably while we continue to work for the eradication of the consequences of discrimination. Otherwise, we must admit to ourselves that so long as the lingering effects of inequality are with us, the burden will be borne by those who are least able to pay."

    I don't think Thurgood Marshall's words could be more on point for this conversation. And I'm not going let you misrepresent what MLK believed. MLK's daughter has repeatedly called out the people who disingenuously use that quote to attack what her father believed in:



     
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