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Utah Senate Race

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Incumbent MAGA supporter is in danger of being upset by independent former R as Utah republicans lead the way in reclaiming their party. I had hoped that Wyoming would, still dumbfounded on how they ate their own to retain allegiance to their deity. Romney refused to endorse him and Kinzinger is campaigning for the independent. I wish we could get Kinzinger to run for POTUS?

    'I'm losing': Mike Lee frets in fundraising email as Evan McMullin surges in Utah Senate race (msn.com)


    Disgust with Donald Trump in Utah has propelled the state's bizarre Senate race into one of the most closely watched races in the 2022 midterms.

    "Just weeks before the Nov. 8 vote, Utah’s senior senator, Republican Mike Lee, is now acknowledging a real reelection threat from Evan McMullin, an anti-Donald Trump independent and former Republican challenging him in the state’s most competitive Senate race in decades," the Associated Press reported Saturday. "Lee’s campaign insists it is confident heading into Election Day, but there are unmistakable signs of anxiety in a race shaping up as a referendum on the direction that Trump has taken the Republican Party."
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    McMullin also got a boost on the issue on Friday from a Republican member of the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    "Speaking to a standing-room-only crowd in an auditorium at the Salt Lake City Library, with more watching the conversation from an overflow room, House Jan. 6 committee member Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said 'democracy is on the line' this midterm election cycle," The Salt Lake Tribune reported Saturday. "Throughout the conversation, both Kinzinger and McMullin took jabs at Lee. Although the incumbent senator voted to certify the results of the presidential election, he has come under fire for texts sent to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, seemingly advising and assisting former President Donald Trump on his efforts to overturn the 2020 election."
     
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  2. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Lee will win. Even in a place like Utah where Republicans are less crazy than average, they'll still vote for MAGA awfulness. What this race will unfortunately demonstrate is why there's zero hope for a viable third party, despite people's empty claims of wanting one.
     
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  3. philnotfil

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    Lee will win because he has been working hard to distance himself from the MAGA awfulness. If he was running on MAGA awfulness he would lose.

    He has been an active participant in the MAGA awfulness, and should lose, but the people of Utah are too nice and will take him at his word.
     
  4. g8trdoc

    g8trdoc Premium Member

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    Why are Democrats so obsessed with Trump? It’s weird.
     
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  5. citygator

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    Maybe if the democrat withdraws? Looks like an easy win for the Pub.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. GatorRade

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    Out of curiosity, why is that weird? What makes a political obsession normal?
     
  7. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Why hasn't Trump conceded. It's been almost two years since he lost the presidential election by close to 8 million votes. Any why does he continue to perpetuate the myth that he really won the election but for non-existent voter fraud. It's weird. Why did he lead his fanatical supporters in attempt to prevent the certification of the election. It's weird. Why has he stashed classified documents at his club in Mar-a-Lago and possibly at his other residences. It's weird.
     
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  8. Trickster

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    This is why - not just Trump, but the radical republicans who have their noses - no, faces - up his butt.
    For Trump’s Backers in Congress, ‘Devil Terms’ Help Rally Voters
    If you can’t see the danger to the Republic, then it’s because you’re part of the group of traitors who want to tear down our democracy.
     
  9. kygator

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    He’s certainly still involved in politics and has a lot of influence, so he is fair game for political commentary.
     
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  10. g8trdoc

    g8trdoc Premium Member

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    Most folks I know look at our 401ks and miss his policies but don’t miss his persona.
     
  11. GatorNorth

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    McMullin is everything Republicans USED to want in a candidate, before the party ran completely off the rails.
     
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  12. GatorNorth

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    Yet they hated Obama, under whom their 401ks did even better.
     
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  13. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot Moderator VIP Member

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    In turn, why were you so obsessed with Obama when he was running for his first term? I recall you declaring in a Too Hot post you would fire any of your employees in your dental practice who supported or voted for Obama. Then after he won you disappeared from this forum for a lengthy period of time. Did you follow through and send your staff packing when Obama won the election?
     
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  14. Trickster

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    Were you praising Clinton and Obama, whose annualized returns exceeded Trump’s, or Biden since the election until forces beyond his control, such as worldwide supply chain backups, hit?

    We really shouldn’t praise any president for stock market performance unless they do things which directly negatively affect it. A president's role is mostly as a leader setting tone and vision. I’ll take any president in my lifetime (Truman on) over Trump.
     
  15. 1990Gator

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    I know right, he should have just digitized all those classified documents and hid them on Hunter’s laptop - they be safe for all eternity there.
     
  16. Trickster

    Trickster VIP Member

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    I doubt you’ll get an answer.
     
  17. Gatorhead

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    Oh I dunno, perhaps it has something to do with the fact he is arguably the biggest crook, liar, pervert, narcissist sack of s__t, wannabe be dictator to disgrace the American experience since 1776, other than that, I haven't a clue.....
    SMH
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    Yeah, but they hated Obama because of "economic anxiety."
     
  19. VAg8r1

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    If the most significant metric of presidential success is the appreciation of our 401(k)s we should be praying for another Barack Obama or another Bill Clinton. Trump didn't do badly at 11.7% per year but the performance of the stock market under his presidency was well below that of the two Democrats.

    Barack Obama
    • President: Jan. 20, 2009-Jan. 20, 2017
    • Market performance: 13.8% per year

    Bill Clinton
    • President: Jan. 20, 1993-Jan. 20, 2001
    • Market performance: 15.2% per year
    The Best and Worst Presidents (According to the Stock Market)
    Here's how the stock market performed under President Donald Trump, and how it compares to previous administrations
     
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  20. PITBOSS

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    The op is mainly about a senate race. But yes Dear Leader is still relevant and should be talked about:
    • He is odds favorite to win repub nomination for 2024.
    • He is active in deciding which repubs should win congressional primaries and his followers listen. A good rule of thumb for which one he selected - it’s the irrational, conspiracy promoting candidate.
    • He stole top secret documents from our gov
    • He is damaging our democracy by continuing to push the big lie
    • he is continuing to encourage division and hate in our country. This includes pushing a message referencing civil war.
    • He constantly speaks out against our gov, policy, and attacks gov leaders which potus have not done for obvious reasons.
    • He is generally regarded as one of the worst potus ever.
    • …..and his followers listen and march to what he tells them
    This can continue, maybe talk about his rape case, or investigation into his backing of jan 6 attack in our capital by his supporters.

    so yes, he is relevant mainly because he is a danger to our country and has so many followers.

    THFSG please start more op’s regarding trump. Thanks!
     
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