They think they are getting quality of education. They are actually just surrounding themselves with other rich kid high achievers.
Hey look, we found something where you think elitists are doing it right. Go ahead and perpetuate the class of 'woke' people you think control America.
Nobody’s saying that all private schools are better than all public schools. But there’s a reason “the elites” tend to send their kids to private school. And it’s not just because they can or because they want a little country club for their kid. Maybe that’s part of the reason, but if you think most would do this at the expense of education, again there’s a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. There’s also the added bonus that you can shop for what values (if any) you want the school to bring up your kids with. Sending malleable kids to the mercy of the public school system has its consequences.
I think the elites do a number of things right. Most people don’t just wake up elite in America these days, they are self made. So they must’ve done something right. I definitely don’t think their wealth was stolen.
No, parents know best. And it happens that the most successful parents with the most money tend to send their kids to private school.
Or perhaps people just imitate the elite, kind of like how people finance college, because thats what rich people do, go to college. Even though lots of people say they know better than parents and those kids should go to trade school or avoid student loan debt.
No, I wouldn't say stolen. I've heard that line of thinking and agree with you there. But generational "wealth" is a really big factor IMO even in relatively pedestrian amounts and putting aside genuine trust fund beneficiaries with millions of dollars. Say, for example, parents who have the ability to help a young adult make a down payment on a first house. Or parents who give their kids stocks as gifts. Those things create huge advantages. I don't fault them for helping their kids. But many (not all) "self-made" claims are people at least failing to acknowledge all the help they got. They doesn't mean that they didn't also have to work hard. Just not as hard as others.
The teachers unions in Florida are pretty weak. They are mostly bargaining units rather than offering any kind of protection to teachers.
perhaps it was due to a shortage of teachers but it was the best public high school in the county. and we sent our kids to private school up until 8th grade because over half the kids in their first school either could barely speak english or couldn't read so kindergarten was a wasted year for our kids and first grade didn't appear to be shaping up any different. teachers/classes were slowed by poorly performing students up until 7th or 8th grade when AP classes began to track the kids differently.
Which is virtually identical to getting quality of education in most times and places. 60-80% of variation in student achievement (depending on age and grade level) is related to factors outside the school. About two-thirds of of the variation in student achievement that is related to factors inside the school are related to factors having to do with the student body rather than anything the school is doing.
Generational wealth is not the story of most of today’s wealthy. But that doesn’t mean most of the wealthy didn’t get some help somewhere down the road.
This applies to multiple threads, especially because of the conclusion. Kevin Drum tries to analyze the late Republican poll resurgence, especially David Brooks' explanation of the effectiveness of the "new" culture/class war Democrats seemed to be doing well this summer as their approval level surged following the Dobbs decision. But now Republicans are surging back. This is partly because the out party always does well in midterm elections, but David Brooks thinks there's more to it: The Trumpified G.O.P. deserves to be a marginalized and disgraced force in American life. But I’ve been watching the campaign speeches by people like Kari Lake, the Republican candidate for governor in Arizona. G.O.P. candidates are telling a very clear class/culture/status war narrative in which common-sense Americans are being assaulted by elite progressives who let the homeless take over the streets, teach sex ed to 5-year-olds, manufacture fake news, run woke corporations, open the border and refuse to do anything about fentanyl deaths and the sorts of things that affect regular people. Sure, I guess. But this is the farthest thing imaginable from something new. The details change from election to election, but this narrative began with Richard Nixon and became fully weaponized by Newt Gingrich and Fox News in the 1990s. It's been part of the core Republican message for 50 years, and it's been their nearly exclusive message for the past 20. Practically all the evidence suggests the United States is fundamentally a strong country right now. Probably the strongest in the world, and with the brightest future. It's extraordinary to think of just how good a place it could be if only we could figure out a way to overcome the debilitating fear that so many people still have of progress and change. Why are Republicans surging as the midterms approach? - Kevin Drum
I’m not really in favor of “private schools over public schools.” I think it really depends on a lot of things for me. Im more a defender of competition and options in schooling. I want as many parents as possible to be able to choose where to send their kids to school, and the environment they want their kids to grow up in. I feel like most critics of things like school choice care more about defending the interests of public schools and making teachers comfortable than they do about the parents (I’m not going to say kids because I like to think most people think their way is best for the kids, but I appreciate the side that wants to let parents decide how to raise their kids and not force the public school system on them as the only viable and realistic option).
Possibly but if an administrator shared that with you then it was very inappropriate of them. If folks think there is a teacher shortage now, just wait. That goes for both public and private.
The point of my post was that when I was in hs (1957-61), American history and our democracy was taught without warts. I swallowed it hook, lines and sinker. In one sense, I have no problem with it. Every country teaches propaganda to one extent or another. It’s necessary to promote cohesion. However, it’s also necessary to recognize and teach the warts lest a country remains stagnant. So, no, I wasn’t in a Russian school, and your comment bespeaks either intellectual dishonesty or poor comprehension of my post. I chose to be generous and attributed the latter to you.
These two seem to me to be contradictory perspectives. Either 1) this bill basically doesn’t exist, so teachers can do whatever they want, or 2) they have to abide by rules on certain topics to avoid punishment. If you do really believe in #1, then why defend this non-law instead of admonishing DeSantis for obvious pandering? If you believe in #2, then you do have to defend one man in Tallahassee dictating the educational experiences of the thousands of students across the entire state. Either way, it’s not an enviable battle to my eyes.
