Teachers in Fl can lose their license...

Yes standardized tests was my point. Despite the hoopla, very useful metrics for comparing apples across boundaries. Not even getting into the number of tests.

 

If there's a complaint about a teacher's behavior, the parent should contact the teacher, and if necessary, the principal. There's a chain of command, so to speak, for dealing with personnel and curriculum issues, and it does not start with the governor. An analogy would be hauling out your chainsaw to clip your toenails.

 

I think he's really going after the groomer types with this law. If you teach only the curriculum then you have nothing to worry about.

 

Cmon people! Pot is available in schools!? Anyone remember what a nickel bag meant in the 70's?Sex.We all learned sex in school BUT us "old" folks certainly aren't in line to teach our kids about how they SHOULD NEVER EXPERIENCE OUR GOOD TIMES! we are HYPOCRITES! We tested. We experimented. We learned. But I guess now everyone has tight legs. Guys no longer feeling the groove so now its righteous time.
Bunch of failing old folks waiting till final days to be righteous and condemn what they already experienced. Young people ARe Not failing America! Its those of us that used to be believers in a better world that think dying is an excuse to screw future generations!

 

Unless it is a small school, after a certain point the higher achieving kids tend to progress to a different path than the middling ones.

My daughter had academic struggles but stepped it up around 8th grade. We occasionally would pay for a tutor if she needed extra help. Occasional one on one tutoring is a lot cheaper than private school tuition, and probably more effective.

 

If you only teach the curriculum, you are a piece of crap teacher. School is where you learn to be a decent and caring person. You learn your social skills in school. School can be the salvation for kids who don’t get what they need at home to be fully-developed adults.

 

How is talking about Democracy going to get her in trouble?

 

Well, I said classroom management first of all. You didn’t quote me correctly. Then you’re going to swing away huh? Looks like a touched a nerve. Public schools for me personally and for my children have been a disaster.
And I’ve wasted thousands of dollars in real estate chasing the better school zones.
So let’s not pretend you’ve got an ace in the hole on me.

 

They may have been targeting only groomers, but they wrote it vaguely and put all the burdern on the schools, so there are going to be many more regular teachers getting caught up in this than groomers. It is a poorly written law and innocent people are going to pay the price for it.

 

When I hear people utter “groomer” they may as well be saying “Hi I’m a gullible moron!”

 

the administrators at my kids high school in Lee County would apologize to us because they knew who the chitty teachers were but said there wasn't anything they could do about it. our kids told us that the other teachers even know who the bad ones are and are embarrassed by them. our experiences obviously differed

 

As a guidance counselor in hillsborough county, this was my experience as well. Everyone was aware of the incompetent teachers and we all tried to work around them. But there were quite a few.

 

I am talking about parents who struggle to give their kids needed medicines.

 

If you are a teacher in Florida you may get a kid that does not speak English. That takes away from teaching everyone else. Teachers work hard, but they can only do so much.

 

That's 100% incorrect. Every parent I've ever known who identifies as liberal, including my parents, as well as my wife and I now, place a great emphasis on education, personal responsibility and self-discipline. I think liberals have become "libbies" and a caricature for you based upon a few extreme liberals or policies. That's no more fair and accurate than if I called every conservative a horse's ass based upon Trump's conduct.

Painting with a broad brush is a sign of the intellectual laziness born of hyper partisanship. You're bright enough to not paint liberals broadly and with the same brush, and I don't know why you do in almost every post on THFSG.

 

Talking about it favorably in way that deviates from prepared materials

 

When most of your time is spent dealing with problems it is hard to teach the majority. It would take my wife from the start of the year until January to fix the problem kids. Some could not be fixed. Title Nine school. She loves them has helped many, but I could never do it.

 

Talking about it favorably when I was in high school many decades ago was the only way it was taught. Looking back, it was propaganda and shortchanged students. But it was the "curriculum" and had to be followed.

I think I see a pattern here.