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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by FutureGatorMom, Oct 20, 2022.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Agree, you definitely don’t need a masters, specialist or doctorate to manage a classroom.
    However, the primary reason my wife and I are extremely satisfied with our private school is not only did the academy attract top notch teachers, it maintains discipline and a culture that doesn’t promote libbie rubbish. They don’t espouse or promote anything political.
    Kids are kicked out for fighting. Zero tolerance. My child got a detention for being 1 minute tardy. I love it.
    She got her ass up extra early after that incident. This is what I’m talking about. Discipline and good old fashioned common sense are what is missing from the libbie progressives.
     
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  2. ursidman

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    I had an 8th grade teacher who spent a few classroom periods instructing us impressionable youths about how FDR was a secret communist. He instructed on his other less reasonable ideas too. Nobody made a fuss or appeared at school board meetings with bull horns to denounce him teaching his far right ideology.
     
  3. l_boy

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    Private schools are wide ranging and have their own issues.

    The ones that are really good tend to be very expensive.

    Religious based private schools are not any better academically and possibly worse.

    Some private schools are repositories for kids who struggle in public schools.

    In a private school setting, due to cost, there is only so much they can pay a teacher. The ones that are good tend to get promoted into management.

    While public school can cause some complacency among certain teachers, at the same time public schools can allow experienced teachers to progress towards a reasonable salary.

    There have been numerous studies that have shown private school doesn’t do any better once you adjust for the demography of the parents. Based upon what I’ve seen that kind of makes sense to me. Unless the school is awful students tend to gravitate to their ability. At my kids former high school they had lots of kids just doing average but also lots of kids doing A/P and college dual credit.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Those were the days. Those days are over. Politics all the time in every locale. It sucks.
     
  5. l_boy

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    Yeah the overall acceptance of the gay community and gay marriage has been remarkable in the course of 20 years. Perhaps trans is similar, but I tend to look at it as a bit different. Gender Dysphoria is absolutely real, but I am highly skeptical of the prevalence when I see some polling among young people and how it has grown. There really is some interplay with other mental illness - as studies have shown and I’ve seen anecdotally. Social media has a tendency to exaggerate everything to an unrealistic magnitude.

    But I’ll be the first to admit I’m not at all an expert, and have no ill will to those who are going through it or their families. I’d rather them have the freedom to work through with their medical providers than get asshole politicians involved.
     
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  6. FutureGatorMom

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    Absolutely! Before I got into real estate I took my son to tour Montverde Academy. The classrooms were small, they had strict rules about being on time, getting your work done and behaving in class. I just couldn't afford $1,000/month plus a new laptop. He was out of high school before I could afford that kind of school. Instead I became the mom cop, and kept him in line that way. His talents didn't require college, even though he wanted to go to Clemson(long story). He now owns a 40ft trawler he renovated and is taking people on day trips to Napa in California where he lives.

    When a school has small classroom sizes and the quality of the students are also up there, it is easier to have success. The socioeconomic makeup is conducive to it. Parents are more involved, the kids were read to, they may even have gone on great educational vacations here and abroad.

    When we were in SC, the public middle school my kids went to had a boot camp for students who consistently misbehaved. Instead of out of school suspension, with your parent's blessing, you stayed in school and went to the boot camp officer's classroom. Their teacher brought their work in so they didn't get farther behind and it was run literally like a bootcamp. He was mean at first and then they started to lighten up. It drove down behavior issues by 90%. I tried to get the Lake county school board to look at it and they turned their nose up at it. No government involved!

    Public schools can learn from private, but our bureaucrats have to support it. This is why many people believe that the right wants to eliminate public education.
     
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  7. l_boy

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    Dude you are obsessed.
     
  8. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Thanks for sharing about your family. Very cool!
     
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  9. mrhansduck

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    The prevalence has increased - or at least the reporting of it. Still low numbers, and I think both sides seem to suggest the relatively small population only bolsters their respective positions ("we shouldn't have to accommodate such a small group" versus "you guys are blowing this way out of proportion.") Even where I live, I have friends and co-workers that are gay and lesbian. But I honestly don't know a single trans person. Maybe they just don't want to live here.
     
  10. l_boy

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    I don’t know any trans adults. But I’ve known several kids who over the years who now identify as the other gender as teens. I also have known a couple of trans people from my college aged daughter who tends to gravitate to the more eccentric.
     
  11. coleg

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    Seems this poster should not even worry about the future of the children, they're all likely doomed by genetics anyway.
     
  12. coleg

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    Since the poster is guessing, and DeS. never had any evidence, suffice it to say it was 100% a made up problem.
     
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  13. citygator

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    Broad brush painting at its best. There are many public schools as good as private schools especially outside the south in areas with money. Sadly money is the deciding factor on school quality not private or public. I’ve always lived in great school areas.
     
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  14. dynogator

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    Teachers operate under a crushing load of guidelines already. Everyone, from the school board and the PTA to the POTUS, mandate certain curricula and tests. DeSantis is just heaping on his legislative "fixes," to impress his fans.
     
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  15. swampbabe

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    I assure you that I am not chimp. What a ridiculous thing to say but I can't say that I'm surprised.
     
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  16. Orange_and_Bluke

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    OTOH if you can take an average or below average student and get them on track academically….you’re doing Gods work.
     
  17. swampbabe

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    You truly are insufferable but you do get the attention that you crave. Shame on me for responding.
     
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  18. ursidman

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    One of mine graduated in the IB program - an absolutely top-notch education instructed by top-notch educators. Absolutely phenomenal teachers. Fabulous curriculum. When he went to graduate school in Germany, the school was reluctant to admit him because his undergraduate college did not give out letter grades (written assessments instead) so there was no GPA for them to consider. However, when I emailed a copy of his IB degree, they accepted him with out further questions or conditions. I'm a big fan of teachers as there were some in my life that awakened a love of learning in me and to whom I owe a lot.
     
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  19. Orange_and_Bluke

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  20. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I’m not sure what’s happening here.