Ashli Babbit played a silly game and won a silly prize (according to what most of those that praise her today have said of others in the past). OP's clear as glass on this in the past.
I told you once this thread wasn't about that. I won't be baited into your silly game here. Now if you want to start a new thread I will be glad to comment.
Well the thread title is a winner at least. There aren’t too many professions that can get these mad props for performing adequately. “Watch baker make literally dozens of doughnuts!” Just doesn’t invoke the same wonder.
Whether it comes to their politicians or the police, OP and his ilk like to keep the bar in the pits of hell. They have low standards for everyone, you have to admire the consistency.
That’s not exactly true. There is a lot of “all cops are bad” sentiment from more than one poster on Too Hot. Examples are available on request.
By all means, please give examples of posters who have pushed an “all cops are bad” sentiment, so we can shame them.
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Also in Columbia County.. Legally blind man arrested after dispelling suspension that he was carrying a firearm. He showed them that it was a walking stick. The man told the cops that he was legally blind before he was taken to jail. This man was arrested for Compempt of Cop.
I'm going to try to link it a different way so that you don't have to keep hitting refresh to get the play button to show up.
Your youtube video didn't load for me, so here is a link. Those cops are absolute scumbags. And there are tons of videos on the internet showing this exact thing regarding whether or not you need to show your ID to cops who stop you for no reason. Seems like the answer is usually "no". In Florida, and many other states, you only have to show your ID to cops if they have a reasonable belief you committed a crime or are about to commit a crime, and they have tell you what crime they think you committed. Once he showed them it was a walking stick, seems like that encounter should have been over. There was obviously no crime, here. If you follow those videos, though, they many times end in arrest and get dismissed quickly in courts. The worst part is that it seemed like they were about to let him go before he asked for their name and badge number, presumably so he file a complaint for what he thought was an illegal search, and that's when one cop says "lock him up for resisting", even though there is absolutely nothing in that video that looks like resisting. I do think he made a huge mistake when made that quick move to grab his walking stick from his waste and show it to the cop ... lucky they didn't shoot him. Any lawyers want to chime in? Did the cops have reason to detain him, cuff him, search him, arrest him? Viral Video of Blind Man’s Arrest Sparks Probe of Florida Deputies
I thought about that, too. The fact that she didn't draw her gun or at least scream at the man not to reach for the stick makes me think that, at least by that time, she knew it wasn't a gun. I don't see how they had a right to his ID at that point but seems like they wanted to prove a point and punish him for being disrespectful.
And that's the thing, exactly. Standing up for your rights isn't "disrespectful", cops should be better trained, and know that once they've determined there has been no crime committed, they need to end the stop. Instead, and all these videos are the same, they try to turn it into a fishing expedition, where it's clear the only reason why they are still asking questions is because they want to find something they can pin on the guy so they can arrest him. That's the only reason why the cops ask you questions like "what are you doing", "where are you coming from", ask for ID. Since the "gun" turned out to be a cane, maybe if they run his ID something will come up. Maybe if they keep him talking he'll say something suspicious enough to give them probable cause. Maybe if they search him they'll find a joint. But it's not supposed to work like that. That's the reason why you never voluntarily let a cop search your car. The only reason why they are searching your car is so they can find a reason to arrest you. Doesn't matter if you know you have nothing illegal ... there have been people arrested on drug charges because they found an prescription pill bottle in the car that had their boyfriend/girlfirend's name on it. I had a friend get charged with carrying a concealed weapon ... he was working and had a plumb bob in his pocket, which is a tool for leveling a surface...
I mean, is this what she thought he had in his back pocket? 22 seconds after contact, she asked if he wanted her to put him in cuffs. Serving and protecting the hell out of the public 13 seconds in she leans around to look and clearly sees it's not a firearm and he immediately tells her it's a navigational aode. And as Duck mentioned, her reaction when he grabbed it re-affirms that she knew it wasn't a firearm. This contact should have lasted about 15 seconds, if that. Say it was a gun. I'm not sure if you would consider this open or concealed carry if it was a firearm. Say it's concealed.. Since you can be permitted to carry if you have a license, I would think that there would be no reasonable, articulatable suspicion of a crime, because having a gun in your jack pocket isn't an automatic crime. He could be licensed. If it were a gun, couldn't he refuse to answer questions? And if he refuses to answer questions, and refusing to answer questions shouldn't be an indicator of guilt, couldn't he still refuse to offer ID in thos scenario?