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illegal immigrants to vote in DC local election?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, Oct 19, 2022.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    The funny part of this post: Ellis Island-era immigration allowed just about everybody into the country with basically no legal restrictions other than having a small amount of money and a lack of communicable diseases. How about we go back to those laws?
     
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  2. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    And BTW, just to be clear: Not being a citizen does not mean they're illegal.
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    Haha, wow, you are correct. Here is Buckeye's first attempt at this post. I guess it was so important, that he forgot he already started this post 3 weeks ago.

    who needs to be a citizen to vote, just cross the border and come to washington d.c
     
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  4. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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  5. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    like i said, you really think it stops in DC, you are a fool.again, can any of you liberals give me 1, 1 valid reason why people who came here with the desire to become a citizen have not done so, i am waiting.
     
  6. G8tas

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    I'd give you a reason that I feel is valid and you'd discount it as being invalid. So what's the point?
     
  7. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    You are asking the wrong person, I cant think of a good reason why anyone would want to become an American citizen (unless they are rich or fleeing one of our wars)
     
  8. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    try me,but student visa's don't count, so bring it one.
     
  9. AzCatFan

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    My great-grandmother had pink-eye when she landed on Ellis Island. Almost sent back, but she was pregnant with my grandmother, and gave birth on the island. She became a citizen, and the family was allowed to stay. And while my grandmother was a citizen, my great-grandparents never became ones, and had to apply for green cards every year. Always believed they would return to Hungary. But as Jews, each passing day leading up to WWII, that became less and less likely.

    As for Boston, last time I was there, Sam Adams had a limited release Amber. Only in select restaurants and the brewery, in which we took a tour. Fantastic tour and the limited release was amazing.

    And again, taxation without representation is a staple in American politics. If immigrants can show they are living within an area for 30 days at the same address, and the municipal area wants them to vote, why not? Again, living there means they are paying taxes including property taxes either as an owner, or through rent, sales tax, gas tax, and other local taxes.
     
  10. buckeyegator

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    canada awaits your defection if you feel there is no value to US citizenship.
     
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  11. buckeyegator

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    then become a citizen, you are side stepping the issue of why they don't.
     
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  12. wgbgator

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    Ok, I'll start studying for the citizenship test by memorizing the starting line of the 1970 Montreal Canadiens and the menu of Tim Hortons
     
  13. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    so what exactly are you worried about here? On your first thread on this subject, you claimed that liberals would ship in a bunch of noncitizens to vote liberal. But several posters pointed out that DC city politics were already very liberal. So that kind of failed.
    What exactly is your claimed concern this time?
     
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  14. AzCatFan

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    Each person has his/her own reason to become a citizen or not. Some, like my great-grandparents may harbor dreams of one day returning home, even if that becomes impossible. Others may know their time here is limited. Still, they end up paying the same local taxes, regardless of citizenship or immigration status.

    So if a local area thinks it's a good idea to have these immigrants vote, why do you have such a major issue with it? Again, restrict their voting and these immigrants end up paying taxes without any sort of representation. And some would say that's un-American.
     
  15. wgbgator

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    So wrong, turns out its Desantis and Abbott shipping in noncitizens to DC!
     
  16. buckeyegator

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    so under this 30 day residency farm workers who go from state to state, are there for more than 30 days and establish a residency can vote in multiple states?
     
  17. buckeyegator

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    if a naturalized citizen wants to return home, what is to stop them?
     
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  18. wgbgator

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    All the farms that need to be worked in DC?
     
  19. AzCatFan

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    Depends on the home country. Naturized citizen would have an US passport, unless he/she had dual citizenship. It may not be as easy to go home as a citizen of another country then as a citizen of said country. Again, depends on the country of origin.
     
  20. buckeyegator

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    so other countries have a stricter policy than the US one of come one, come all