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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gator34654, Oct 17, 2022.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    That's my point, I think they are lining up too far back.

    I wish we played the bump and run scheme with our DBs. Lie the old days during our 2007 Championship year. Yeah, we have all pro type DB and Safeties, but it was less complicated than some of the stuff they are trying to run now. It was more skill and less scheme.
     
  2. GameTime1

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    Do you think there are a lot more pick plays now? Sure seems so
     
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  3. 31g8r

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    I highly doubt BN is making any adjustments to staff before ESD there are tactical and strategic objectives at play. There is a road to signing the class we have committed with close losses and the real possibility of immediate PT for incoming frosh.

    yes negative recruiting is possible but BN can sell his vision and the fact he gave time to both players and coaches flipping and firing people midstream is going to look desperate

    The product is numbing to watch but I understand the number crunch we are under between DL and LB

    the other aspect we aren’t privy to is coaches meetings what is said, what is acknowledged, what do they feel is the issue. I promise you having been in these types meetings there is clarity of circumstance and BN isn’t airing out anyone player or coach to extract the pound of flesh publicly to soothe the masses
     
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  4. 31g8r

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    Offensive evolution dictates skill and scheme. Unfortunately it isn’t 2007 or 1990 anymore. Even bama can’t keep a lid on scoring machines.

    One issue we have is we don’t throw the ball well therefore we aren’t going to give a good scout look vs. passing teams. This is why we do well on 1-2 downs more run orientated downs
     
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  5. gatornation1173

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    Hey folks recruits read. Probably even here.

    “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
     
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  6. missourigator

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    answer next year: simple transfer portal
     
  7. always_and_forever_uf

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    Firing defensive staff right now will do NO GOOD. And yes, this defense is atrocious.

    We have to go back to the drawing board this bye week and overhaul the scheme and players running it on the field. And if we improve, so be it. And if we get even worse, so be it.

    When the season is over, yeah, take the gloves off on staff that cannot coach up the players. Then, recruit, recruit, recruit.

    One good thing in this absolutely horrific defensive year......those defensive recruits in the 23 class are going to have a GREAT chance of seeing meaningful snaps from game 1 in Utah on. And that will not be affected if Dexter, Marshall, Cox and Miller all come back (no, Miller is not coming back, just adding some humor).
     
  8. tommyvee

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    Talented based on what? Do you think we have better athletes than LSU?
     
  9. GameTime1

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    I thought kitna threw the ball well? We don’t have a single backup QB who throws well?
     
  10. GameTime1

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    I think our athletes are on par with lsu.
     
  11. tommyvee

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    That’s optimistic, but I’m open to that. Their ASU transfer QB played better than our QB. Their WRs are definitely better than our WRs.

    it’s so disheartening as LSU fans will be the first to tell you they had to scramble for transfers to put a team together. I think they did a better job in the portal than we did if I’m being honest.
     
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  12. GameTime1

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    Fsu, msu, auburn, tenn…all averaged 9 Ypc against lsu. Ours? 15 yards per catch. Something isn’t right. I think it’s players, but I’m still hoping it’s bad habits rather than coaching/scheming
     
  13. tommyvee

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    Our defense is bad, especially the front 7 and I’m not sure we can fix it this year.
     
  14. GameTime1

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    Shoot, it’s all 11. Front 4 can’t win 1-1s or set the edge (with regularity), LBs (minus miller) are lost, and every DB has coverage issues.
     
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  15. tommyvee

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    Well I was sunshine pumping. Miller is a liability in the pass game so I will rain on your parade.
     
  16. GameTime1

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    But he’s not lost!
     
  17. tommyvee

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    Not lost but always a step too late.
     
  18. GameTime1

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    Too often a step too late for our liking…which is 1 or more
     
  19. tommyvee

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    Love Ventrell. Wish he was more athletic.
     
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  20. benheb

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    I can take it if they improve. If they don't - I'll be worried about the future. I don't know why they are so awful but they have been awful for awhile. I'll give the coaches a chance to fix it.