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Post-Game Discussion: LSU at FLORIDA

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, Oct 15, 2022.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    If the player knows his assignment... I think it's too complicated for our players, and because of that the defensive backs is thinking and not reacting back there.

    I still think we need to try and simplify the schemes and assignments on the back end of our defense.
     
  2. GameTime1

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    The sun belt scheme is too complicated?
     
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  3. GatorKenW

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    Offense is okay. Its working but we leave so many points on the field.
     
  4. Matthanuf06

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    Against a decent OC (and system) if the coverage is that obvious they will just run beaters on you. So you have to disguise coverages somewhat. Which is why corners end up getting a third in the cover 3
     
  5. Matthanuf06

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    I think the opposite, it’s too basic. We rarely disguise coverage and we run similar things over and over.
     
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  6. benheb

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    Man when I see AR gliding through a swarm of LSU defenders like he did on that run, I wonder how anyone can beat us. We just need a serviceable defense just like we did in 2020. This defense needs to show some improvement by the end of the season. I won't be optimistic otherwise.
     
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  7. zman-1

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    Was he wearing a red noncontact jersey?
     
  8. zman-1

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    Except the db's first steps are backward resulting in an even larger cushion for an easy completion. Go back and watch the film. No wonder every quarterback we have played is now a Heisman contender.
     
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  9. tommyvee

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    Offense is wildly inconsistent and AR needs to play better. Defense is a liability right now.
     
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  10. DieAGator

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    Well, that would be on our staff. And isn't soft coverage essentially a simplification anyway?
    Hard to believe. How complicated can a complicated scheme be? It's still football.
     
  11. Gatorrick22

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    How else can our defense look so lost on so many plays? I mean if it's easy then the DBs/Safeties should never be out of position, right? And just watching how they line up so far off the receivers on 3rd and long is troubling to see. That needs to be altered a bit. I think we'll get that fixed soon enough.
     
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  12. GameTime1

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    They haven’t fully learned it? They are now doing things they aren’t accustomed to? They aren’t that great? They haven’t bought in?
     
  13. Gatorrick22

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    There is a ton wrong with the defense... and most of it is NOT because of the lack of talent.
     
  14. freedomgator

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    I was responding to the guy claiming our alignment was somehow egregiously bad, which it obviously isn't. What happened post snap was probably bad, though I don't recall the play in question.
     
  15. 31g8r

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    For all the debate about bout secondary woes consider this.

    DBs we playing a position every single kid has played since they first played backyard football and the technique was man coverage, you matched and you went where you man went the concept is understood.

    Zone is actually man coverage when there is a man in your zone. Which that in mind the question becomes why are we guarding the rear most part of the zones (closest to our goal line) and not the man when he enters the front of the zone and escort him to the boundary of the zone?

    alignment and technique are used to make a particular coverage more successful. We don’t brackets any receivers, disrupt slot recievers with a olb or as when they have flat responsibility, bios vertical walls with our ILB on TEs or crossing routes, come of blitzes when our back crosses our face etc.

    If we are defining scheme as personal alignment and responsibility it’s not too complicated. Keep in mind all defense is predicated on ores so alignment and formational tendencies wrt to play, action(motion), routes, field position, D&D, thus is for the coaches to solve and players to react. I would like to believe our players are watching film themselves and picking up on play tendencies for the opposition. Just like they do practicing against themselves.


    We might not be the smartest team in the conference
     
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  16. LearnedGator

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    Well, here is my final take-away from this game, as many have said, the Gator defense was exposed by LSU, for the first time all season, Daniels, the LSU QB, looked like a very good QB, easily the best performance by an LSU QB since Joe Burrow in 2019.

    While not as bad as the defense, the Gator offense could not do enough to keep up, neither rushing nor passing the ball.

    With the win LSU has tied up the series 33-33-3. A series that Spurrier was able to utterly dominate.

    From 1990 to 2001, SOS went 11-1 against LSU.

    Since Spurrier left following the 2001 season, UF is 7-14 against LSU, with LSU winning the last 4 in a row; and let's be honest, there is no evidence at present that this trend is going to be reversed any time soon. Hope certainly, evidence no.
     
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  17. tegator80

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    You know what they say, let's slow the game down to a crawl so that we only lose by a little. So, you decide that losing slow isn't a winning strategy and so you "go for it."

    And then you lose BIG. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. We are who we are.
     
  18. tegator80

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    It would work if we went hurry-up and did not substitute. They could call a TO and then it would not work again. You lose a real RB, who would be able to block. AR is the QB, Kitna is a statue.
     
  19. tegator80

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    Old take: he should have come in in the second series of the second half of the Missouri game. Some folks here think this means we are running AR out (or messing with his mind). It was all about getting AR's mind correct as well as see what Plan B would look like against a decent team.

    Alas, we may never know, unless AR gets hurt.
     
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