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For once can fans circle the wagon & remain positive?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by iam4uf, Oct 16, 2022.

  1. Crusher

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    Good thing you weren't born a Gator fan in 1900...you would have had to live to 84 years old to get to experience that SEC title. :D
     
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  2. nawlinsgator

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    It actually makes the "stay positive" crowd seem like lemmings. There are legit areas that need to be improved on. Pointing them out somehow makes you a pariah.
     
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  3. tommyvee

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    You’re kidding, right? We lost 3 of 4 starting DLinemen (and a lot of senior leadership) in Carter, Valentino and Newkirk. We lost a first rounder in Kaiir. And like him or not, we lost a starter in Diabate and possibly our best defender in Hopper.
     
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  4. tegator80

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    Wow, just...WOW!

    If I may assist, you are too emotionally involved in what happens in UF football. The season is what it is. And your emotions are not going to change it one iota. Personally, I like to use gallows humor.

    Could you please explain to us how your motivations are different than what is happening at Auburn? You think they are a model for how to build a program?
     
  5. nawlinsgator

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    What the heck are you talking about? I pointed out that we have coaching problems, and you send me to Auburn. Stay focused
     
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  7. tegator80

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    This is it for me. I tried; the rest is up to you.

    GAME 7 OF YEAR 1 after Dumbo and Associates' mess. Geez Louiz!
     
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  8. ocalaman

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    The season is playing out pretty much like was predicted before the Utah game. Just about everybody said we would be a 7-5, 6-6 team. The Utah game got a lot of people's hopes unrealistically high. The woeful defensive play is a definite concern, but it was a concern last year with a lot of the same guys playing. The main differences were that Elam was at one CB and Miller was not at LB and we had a couple of better players in the defensive trenches. The new coach has brought in a whole new approach to the program, has a high quality class of recruits coming in and has told everyone that we are in a process that is going to take time. I like what I've seen and heard from Napier and I'm impressed with the inroads he's made on the recruiting trail. Therefore, I'm watching the games this year with interest and waiting to see how it plays out over the next couple of years. Goooo Gators!!!
     
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  9. paidinfull

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    99% of the people ripping the coaches have zero to do with getting them fired. Mullen would still be gone without master twitter fingers’ bitching.
     
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  10. paidinfull

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    Anyone that buys tickets from the uaa is a booster. Almost none of them have any real input into what actually happens with the program.
     
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  11. iam4uf

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    Mullen (and McElwain & Muschamp) had no plan & quit on the team. We have a coaching staff that is trying something different, something that takes time. Let's try something different & work with the coaches (which Napier asked fans to do when he first started) to make things better.
     
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  12. nawlinsgator

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    ok dude, got me on a technicality, you win.
     
  13. gator10

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    I don’t believe the portal would have gotten us out of this. There just aren’t enough of the level of playmakers we need out there.
     
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  14. gator10

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    Oh gosh, we definitely don’t want Mullen to still be here. His recruiting is what made this bed we are in.
     
  15. tommyvee

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    Yes but it would’ve soften the blow. LSU got like a third of their team from the portal.
     
  16. paidinfull

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    Wasn’t a gotcha post. I mean, it’s crazy how people talk about the boosters this and boosters that when when it doesn’t take much of anything to be considered a booster, but the main point was that the boosters have very little say in football hirings and firings. Even the ones that donate enough to get their name on a door or a plaque. There may be one or two whales that could swing their weight around, but I doubt they swing their weight around as much as you think they do. The ones that act like they make moves most certainly don’t.
     
  17. gator34654

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    Is that a talent issue or coaching development issue? Just asking
     
  18. tommyvee

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    Both but mainly talent imo. You can’t do more than get them in position to make a play. Of course, in today’s world, real tackling drills don’t happen as much so we do drills with the tackle wheel Gilman roll thing. That’s a coaching decision.
     
  19. gator34654

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    How do you account again and again very few blitzes, db's playing 10 to 13 yards back again and again. How many times it's a crucial third and 10 and we play so far off the wr, that the third down is easily converted. Is that lack of talent or are these cbs coached to play that way because they do it constantly from game to game.
    I get the lack of talent. Heck, lots of teams who lack talent find ways to to scheme around that but we just play our typical soft zone and wonder why qbs have a field day against us.
     
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  20. tommyvee

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    I get it. I think coming into the game, we thought we could get pressure with our front 4 based on what LSU has shown. That wasn’t the case and we need to address this in the bye week.

    The soft zone is who we are right now. We think keeping everything in front of us is more desirable than getting beat deep. So like I’ve said before, at our best we are bend but don’t break. Unfortunately, that’s where we are. Players are late to recognize, slow to react and physically a step undermanned when compared to other SEC talent. Couple that no depth and it exacerbates the issue. I’m not an apologist, I’m just a realist. We are bad, but it’s not the scheme.