Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Waiting for the all the posters who said getting the vaccine will prevent transmission to say "my bad, I was wrong". Don't worry, I'm sure they will all own up to it...

 

Follow the science!

 

Speaking only for myself whether or not the vax prevents transmission or even infection is far less significant than whether it prevents the possibility of a serious infection resulting in hospitalization or death and the science indicates that it is effective in doing so. Also keep in mind that the vax was more effective at preventing transmission and infection of the earlier more lethal strains of the virus than it is of the more much transmissible and but much less lethal now dominant Omicron variant.
Study: COVID-19 vaccine boosters prevent hospitalizations | AHA News

 

Prevents hospitalizations from what ?

 

Every public health official said the vaccine would prevent spread. It did not. Also healthy kids have zero reason to take the vaccine. You are making up crap saying the vax was effective at preventing transmission. The vaccine was never tested for stopping transmission.

From the CDC:

 

This speaks to the US being more unhealthy than pretty much every other country, as well as huge increases in drug related deaths in younger people.

As US life expectancy drops, Europe shows signs of recovery post-COVID

Study authors said life expectancy in France, Belgium, Switzerland and Sweden returned to pre-pandemic levels by reducing mortality in people 60 and over. They attributed life expectancy declines in other countries to continued mortality in this age group.

But the U.S. was the only country that continued to see life expectancy losses because of increasing mortality in people under 60, explaining for “more than half of the loss in U.S. life expectancy since the start of the pandemic,” study authors said.

Study authors also note the country’s proportion of people with comorbid conditions – which is comparatively larger than European counterparts – may have increased mortality in the working-age population.

The study tracks with previous reporting showing U.S. life expectancy decreased from 78.86 years in 2019 to 76.99 years in 2020, and then to 76.60 years in 2021 – accumulating a net loss of 2.26 years, according to a study authored by Woolf and published in April.

 

^ perhaps not coincidentally, the US is perhaps the most heavily medicated country in the world.

Just recently, a new study suggests a dramatic increase in heart disease with psych drug use.

 

The vaccine did prevent the spread of COVID with the wild type. But scientists knew that it was a race between vaccine and variant, which was the title of this article dated April, 2021. The goal when the vaccine was rolled out was to reach herd immunity before a new variant that had greater vaccine resistance took hold. We failed. We needed at least 70% vaccination rate to reach herd immunity against the wild type. We were barely at 60% when Delta emerged. Delta being more vaccine resistant took the herd immunity vaccination number to closer to 90%. We're still not at 70%. No surprise that Delta gave way to a variant with even greater vaccine resistance in Omicron as the dominant strain.

The word breakthrough case is not anything new in medical lexicon, and we knew that a vaccine wouldn't prevent everyone from getting sick. But if the vaccine reduced the R0 to under 1, then eventually, COVID would stop spreading. It's simple math. From the wild type, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had a 5% to 10% breakthrough case percentage. J&J was closer to 30%, but all three had 99% efficacy in preventing severe cases, which was why all 3 were approved.

In addition, even today, at around 30% efficacy from COVID disease prevention, the vaccine helps prevent the spread. 30% of people with immunity lowers the R0 rate. In addition, the vaccine helps reduce spread by lowering severity, length, and viral load of someone with a breakthrough case. This means a vaccinated person will get over the virus quicker, and be contagious for a smaller amount of time.

The reason to vaccinate kids was to get to the herd immunity numbers as fast as possible. We'll never know what might have happened had we reached 70% before Delta. Maybe the person responsible for Delta would have not gotten sick in the first place because the vaccine might have broken the web and stopped transmission before Delta 0 got sick? That was the hope, and again, we failed.

Now that Omicron has come and pass, agreed, there is likely little use in vaccinating younger kids, especially if they already got COVID.

 

Olbermann fails to mention the people riding alone in cars with their masks on and not leaving their house for months, while screaming that my kids should have their academic world interrupted and their memories taken away as also very much...."AFRAID!!"

Good lord the fact that people can only see their side is so insane. BOTH side operated out of fear. Both sides were political.

And almost everyone made a fear based decision at some point through this thing.

Heck i got vaccinated because I was "afraid" of harming loved one. "Afraid" of harming co workers etc.

Hes so nutty MSNBC is like nah dude.

 

Congratulations, all who fell for the gaslighting, you’ve turned people into deadly disease vectors.

 

The super sad part is, even knowing what we know now, certain sections of the country would and will do the same stupid shit all over again at the first opportunity.

 

Yep. The worst part is many on here won't acknowledge the huge mistakes that were made. They know who they are. They are too full of themselves to admit it.

 

You think this could have been a factor?
Studies consistently find higher Covid death rates among Republicans than Democrats
Excess Death Rates for Republicans and Democrats During the COVID-19 Pandemic

By the way, this is from your own linked article.

 

Dont know if it has been posted but man I love this - exactly the right reaction

 

Red States are typically more obese.

 

What part of "may be partly" is hard to understand? Plenty of other countries had less vaccine acceptance and lower mortality rates.

 

i just got my new Covid booster along with my flu shot. I also got a shingles vaccine. I really don’t know why they can’t combine the Covid and flu shot. My guess is we are going to need an annual shot for both for pretty much forever.

 

Outrage as Boston University CREATES Covid strain that has an 80% kill rate | Daily Mail Online

 

Actually most (not all) European countries have a higher vaccine acceptance rate than the US. And speaking of "partly" the death rate in the US attributable to opioids is higher than that of European countries (it increased 2020 and 2021 after declining for several years in a row) and that virtually every European country has a better healthcare system than the US. Unlike the US, Europeans do not defer healthcare based on their inability to pay.
For vaccine acceptance rates, click on the link below:
Tracking Coronavirus Vaccinations Around the World

 

Likely hundreds of thousands of Americans died due to vital screenings and procedures deferred, including two acquaintances of mine. Reason: it was Covid* care at the expense of all else.