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Post-Game Discussion: LSU at FLORIDA

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, Oct 15, 2022.

  1. freedomgator

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    Nowhere did I say that this worked on the play in question. I disputed the notion that this was some sort of fundamentally flawed alignment, because that notion is stupid.
     
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  2. paidinfull

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    You posted a picture.

    Lining up our db’s at or behind the sticks on third and long is what we’ve been doing all year. Last in the nation in third down defense supports the notion that there is a fundamental flaw in our third down defense.
     
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  3. freedomgator

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    I didn't post a picture. Someone else posted a picture, and I questioned it. You don't know what's happening here, and you don't know what's happening on the field.
     
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    Question on the penalty called on #67 Richie Leonard which was the same play that LSU was flagged for hitting AR below the knees. For those at the game, was there a second flag that came out downfield where he was?

    On the TV broadcast, the initial flag came out for what appeared to be a face mask penalty on our receiver long before Leonard arrived to clean up the pile. Refs huddled and next thing we get are off setting penalties.
     
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  5. paidinfull

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    You posted a pic in response to my post. There was nothing to read.

    I can see just fine that we continue to line our db’s up at, and/or behind, the sticks on third and longs and that it continues to fail. It fails so much that we have landed at the bottom of all of d1 football in 3rd down defense. Do you have an argument to the contrary or are you just going to post pictures and make snarky remarks?
     
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  6. freedomgator

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    The idea that we should run press man cover zero on every third and long is so silly it doesn't need an "argument to the contrary." If you really believe that's what we should do then you're beyond reason.
     
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    Did I say that’s what we should do every time?


    What I do know is that sitting back every time is NOT working.
     
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  8. gatorpa

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    Let’s not forget he was fired as OC by Sweeney…
    Yikes
     
  9. gatorpa

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    You would think with his pedigree he wouldn’t be making those kind of mistakes, it’s happen multiple times this season.

    I think it was the Mizzu game he burned two time outs in the first half one was to ice the kicker which left us without any for a two minute drill.
     
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  10. gatorpa

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    Agree a flag came in well before Leonard came flying in. Then a second flag came in. There was no explanations as to the first flag.

    Additionally on the late hit the replay showed the Ump right there watching the play yet he didn’t throw the flag. Funny if it was so egregious why didn’t he toss the flag?
     
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  11. ETGator

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    The first TO was to save a penalty and an automatic first down. The second was to ice their kicker, I believe.
     
  12. tegator80

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    If I may assist, trying to rationalize ways we could have won this game is entirely missing the salient point:


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  13. gatorpa

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    You may be right, I may have it confused as it’s happen a few times this year.
    If i recall correctly Mizzu wasn’t gonna be able to get lined up to kick and he called a TO. The announcers questioned it but then thought he did it to try to save time to score. But then he tried to ice the kicker and burned the last one. So not only did we give them a shot to kick a FG, we then had no TO to try to move the ball..
     
  14. ETGator

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    I was listening to the radio broadcast like I always do.

    Shane said almost immediately we had too many men on the field. Some from the D coming off and some for the special team coming on and Missouri ran to the line to snap and get an automatic first down. So Coach Napier called a TO.

    I can only imagine the howling we would have heard if he hadn't, they got a first down and then scored a TD.

    So heads Coach Napier was wrong . . . and tails he was even more wrong. That's what it has come to with some.

    Not necessarily accusing you @gatorpa . . . but saying it in your response so hopefully some can see and think about it.

    The issue I would have is coordination in getting the D off the field and special teams on and the trouble we've seen with special teams so far . . . but NOBODY has raised that in this situation (that I recall). All anyone has done is complain about using TOs. Second, do they work to "ice" a kicker? I don't think so but if my coach does I go with what he wants to call.
     
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  15. gatorpa

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    Fair enough. Thanks for the detailed explanation about that one use of the TO.
     
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    Pretty sure it’s documented we called timeout on the Fg try initially because we had personnel issues on the field
     
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    If you want to coach to the nth degree in that situation play fg safe with your defense and challenge the offense to execute the kick against the clock
     
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    I was really hoping he would take some of the $$$ allotted for staff and go out and hire a young dynamic OC/QB coach, Joe Brady type. The current offense is not very dynamic, by design. The play calling by committee is another thing, no wonder it takes forever to get every play in.
     
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  19. I highly recommend everyone listen to the radio broadcast. Shane Matthews always seems to have great insight into the game—things we cannot see on TV. Listening to him makes me 1% less frustrated at this team.
     
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  20. Tgator5

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    The whole offensive play calling is wrecked. Like Mullen, Napier calls the offense. Then AR supposedly has strict instructions not to run....his passing is embarrassing....then he runs and scores....then he's on running lockdown while Napier takes a TO for no reason. It's madness to me at this point.
     
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