I'd love to hear all about what George Stinney, a child whose conviction was posthumously vacated, did to deserve the death penalty, other than be a Black kid in the South. There's also Cameron Todd Willingham, Larry Griffin, Frank Lee Smith,* Larry Swearingen, and Nathaniel Woods. (Frankly, that's the tip of the iceberg, as Texas has a real penchant for executing likely innocent people.) * - Died of cancer while on death row. Ah yes, it's okay for the government to murder innocent people if they aren't a "squeaky clean good citizen." You continue to take absolutely repugnant stances.
I don't think they need a rope, their fellow inmates will take care of the worst of the worst. Nicholas Cruz won't last 5 years.
I'm not surprised. "Let's just shoot migrants." "Putting innocent people to death isn't a problem. They weren't squeaky clean good citizens anyways." Sociopathic stances.
If you accept the death penalty as legitimate then you accept the deaths of innocents who were wrongly convicted. How many of those will you tolerate. Florida leads the nation with 30 death row inmates that were exonerated. How many wrongfully executed would it take to point to the ample failures that exist in the criminal justice system?
Can we stop with the "executions cost more" stuff. No way does 8t cost more to flip a switch, give an injection ow fire a bullet. This is government toilet cost type stuff. Just made up costs. Im against the death penalty in general...but that excuse is just not working for me
In this case it is absolutely true that Saudi and Taliban regimes are closer to an eye for an eye approach. Saudi Arabia reportedly sentences man to paralysis in 'eye-for-an-eye' judgment Saudi Arabia: Court Orders Eye to Be Gouged Out What is the Punishment for Stealing in Saudi Arabia?
executions absolutely cost more, when you take into account death row incarceration, the typical long periods of incarceration until sentence is carried out, and the very expensive legal procedures and hearings that happen along the way. Also the cost of the actual execution procedure and all that is involved. We are never going to be a country that after a death sentencing in court we take them to the basement and shoot them in the back of the head. For that I am thankful.
The State also likely put an innocent man to death. Questions of innocence: Legal roadblocks thwart new evidence on appeal | Death Penalty Information Center
The cost of incarceration exists either way. Appeals happen for life sentences too. So that doesnt hold water. A prosecutor gets paid the same either way. They are salaried positions so I dont even see how that holds true. And no one is suggesting executions be handed out without our full legal process. I'm just suggesting that the cost is greatly exaggerated. Incarceration costs should not count as that happens regardless. Legal fees are not that much extra as that prosecutor/team are on the payroll regardless of a death or life attribution in a case. The judge will get his salary regardless of the case that crosses his desk. It's likely a political exaggeration. And AGAIN i am pretty much against the death penalty.
That seems to just compare trial costs. No one n is arguing that. The argument is that executing someone today is more expensive than paying for their incarceration for the next several decades. I dont believe that for a minute.
Massive Fail. Fact check/Is the death penalty more expensive than life in prison Costs | Death Penalty Information Center https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs/summary-of-states-death-penalty From the Supreme Ct https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/urls_cited/ot2016/16-5247/16-5247-2.pdf FINANCIAL FACTS ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY • Defense costs for death penalty trials in Kansas averaged about $400,000 per case, compared to $100,000 per case when the death penalty was not sought. (Kansas Judicial Council, 2014). • A new study in California revealed that the cost of the death penalty in the state has been over $4 billion since 1978. Study considered pre- trial and trial costs, costs of automatic appeals and state habeas corpus petitions, costs of federal habeas corpus appeals, and costs of incarceration on death row. (Alarcon & Mitchell, 2011). • In Maryland, an average death penalty case resulting in a death sentence costs approximately $3 million. The eventual costs to Maryland taxpayers for cases pursued 1978-1999 will be $186 million. Five executions have resulted. (Urban Institute, 2008). • Enforcing the death penalty costs Florida $51 million a year above what it would cost to punish all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole. Based on the 44 executions Florida had carried out since 1976, that amounts to a cost of $24 million for each execution. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000). • The most comprehensive study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of sentencing murderers to life imprisonment. The majority of those costs occur at the trial level. (Duke University, May 1993). • In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992).
How is it not what he's saying? If the US did what he is proposing I think SA is a valid comparison to the kind of extreme society we would be. It's certainly no country I would ever want to live in.
So many act high and mighty when proposing issues such as the death penalty (which has no value whatsoever) or making abortion a criminal offense for the woman. You do realize that so many spent years screaming at Sharia Law countries (such a Saudi Arabia) and condemning them for the VERY SAME LIBERTIES OF PUNISHMENTS! My how far this country has fallen. By the way...the Maldives is a "100% Sunni Muslim" destination. Only recently did they move away from the practice of jail and 100 lashes for any unmarried girl that got pregnant. A few years back the death penalty was brought back into discussions by a Trump clone and former autocratic president Yameen. Many speak in such an ignorant manner that they have no idea we simply fall beneath being a civilized country by these actions.
