All I simply and factually stated is that this was a bad shot by yet another bad cop in America. I didn't say "All cops are bad" or anything of the sort.
while I was speaking more generally than you in most of that post, it was the “yet another”, which implied some systemic issue. When you have 700k of anything, you can pretty much always find a “yet another”. if I misread what you were saying than I apologize.
Way to be magnanimous when I took the time to apologize. And people wonder why the tone here is so bad much if the time.
Basically everything the cop did was wrong procedure. He snuck up on the kid and opened his door, he barely gave the kid a chance to even process what was happening. You can hear the victim say “why” when asked to get out of the car, and it seems like not even 2 seconds later “shots fired!”. Kid might have thought for a second he was being carjacked, maybe he realized it was a cop when he says “why” but that still isn’t much time. You don’t just stealth approach and open someone’s door like that. The appropriate thing to do would be to pull up his police cruiser behind this car, lights flashing and blast the siren a couple of times, get the tags, announce his presence THEN approach the vehicle or instruct the driver to exit the vehicle. This is before we get into the legality of using lethal force. There was no moment where this incompetent officer’s life was in danger, thus he was never justified in firing 1 shot. Let alone shooting 10 bullets across a parking lot. He’s lucky he didn’t also hit the passenger or some random passerby (but you can bet your ass that passenger is going to sue for damages as well).
He called it in and could have waited a minute or two until a another cruiser got there. While he was waiting he could have called in the tag. When back up arrives they could have blocked the car in with lights on and instructed him to get out of the car. There are dozens of scenarios where this could have been handled without firing a shot
There’s absolutely a systemic issue with how police are trained in the US. It has long emphasized immediate compliance, putting officer safety first with little regard elsewhere to achieve such safety, and paid little concern to deescalation. Clearly the effect of the training and resulting socialized policing norms do not always result in police taking lives, bad shoots, etc. but it has frequently resulted in increased conflict when it isn’t necessary.
TPD has a pretty strong record compared to most municipal police department when it comes to use the force. And of course Jesse Madden, whose Memorial this is, died tragically in a car accident. That should never be forgotten. But man I worry about the way police perceive themselves on the way they chose to memorialize an officer who died at the hands of a wrong way driver. I could not figure out a way to make the photographs appear. Too big. If someone else can, that would be great 登录 Facebook | Facebook
Are there bad cops out there, sure BUT for all of you anti-cop/defund the police liberals on here I have some advice. The next time you need help don't call the police, call a crackhead.
Totally agree. At the very least, in all the videos I've seen, cops usually yell "Police! Open the door", or "Police, Show me your hands". When they do a "no knock", they yell "Police" several times when entering. Identifying yourself as a cop is critical to these "surprise" situations. This guy didn't do that. Just yelled "get out of the car". Big mistake on his part. This was completely avoidable if he had blocked the car in an flashed his lights, like you said.
Two of the worst cops ever. How can they still be employed. I'd sue for every penny the had, personally as well.
City settled for $200k. It is Texas, police do not get fired for abuse, they get awards. If the victim is a minority, the reward pay out is higher.
