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Violent nutjobs shoot each other’s daughters in Florida road-rage gunfight (video added)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by orangeblue_coop, Oct 13, 2022.

  1. orangeblue_coop

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    Two “crazy” dads have been charged with attempted murder after allegedly opening fire and hitting each other’s daughters in a terrifying road-rage gun battle in Florida, authorities said. Strangers William Hale, 35, and Frank Allison, 43, shot at each other’s vehicles with semi-automatic handguns during a high-speed “cat and mouse” chase late Saturday — and were finally busted when they got out and started brawling on the highway, according to cops.

    During the gun battle, Hale’s 5-year-old daughter was hit in the leg and
    Allison’s 14-year-old daughter was shot in the back, leaving her with a collapsed lung, Nassau County Sheriff Bill Leeper said Monday.

    “What’s scarier than one crazy driver with a gun? Two crazy drivers with a gun,” the shocked sheriff said. “Thankfully, no one was killed in this incident, but it could have very easily turned out that way because two people were acting stupid and let their tempers get the best of them.

    “There could have been two dead kids because of two stupid grown men.”

    Florida dads shoot young girls in road-rage gun battle


    Just another day in America.
     
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  2. ncargat1

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    I am shocked that DeSantis has not already pardoned them both and lauded them publicly for excercising their 2nd Amendment Rights to be total and complete public a-holes and menaces. Then, just for good measure, the NRA (or whatever is left of that corrupt, bankrupt organization) will lobby to ensure that no state can take away the gun "rights" of these fine upstanding citizens.
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    Stupid? Wrong. Just two Constitution lovers exercising their right to defend their family, as the 2nd amendment intended.
     
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  4. ATLGATORFAN

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    Thought I read Both charged with attempted Murder……as it should be.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    Its Florida, they were actually charged with attempting to settle things with a lame ass fist fight instead finishing it with a deadly shootout.
     
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  6. ridgetop

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    The extreme partisan takes are sad. No one is defending these two. No one thinks they were within their rights. But hey… go ahead and make stupid partisan commentary. Tribalism is alive and well.
     
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  7. ridgetop

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    Or
    The sheriff closed the conference by stating, "There could have been two dead children because of two stupid grown men." According to online documents in the Nassau County Clerk of Court's office, both Hale and Allison were taken into custody and booked into the Nassau County Jail on one count each of attempted murder in the second degree
     
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  8. wgbgator

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    Everyone is a responsible gun owner until they aren't. Either the system failed in that these idiots could obtain guns or the guns turned them into violent idiots. Either way, its an indictment of our gun laws. They and some kids with gunshot wounds are the fallout so some senior citizen can conceal carry a glock to the movies.
     
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  9. FutureGatorMom

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    I thought for sure this happened on I-4. I've seen someone break check a tanker truck. There aren't enough Highway patrol officers working the highways to keep this in check.
     
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  10. Gator515151

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    We don't need more police officers, we need more mental health professionals on the highway to defuse these situations. Y'all know the deal, defund the police.
     
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  11. ridgetop

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    It’s not. You take a small sample of bad gun owners and apply it to the whole group.
    Same thing that is often done with cops
    Can we do that with anything else
    Small sample of bad (fill in the blank) and apply that to the whole group? Drunk driving drastically applied to all beer drinkers? Crime rates applied to all people of a certain gender, race, location? Bad teachers, doctors, lawyers applied to all teachers doctors lawyers… Of course not. That would be insane and everyone recognizes that fact.
    These two individuals were jackasses and a menace and will be tried for attempted murder. Not an indictment on Desantis. Not an indictment in the gun laws. Just an indictment of two complete morons.
     
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  12. ridgetop

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    1-4 has been called the most dangerous road in America… and I don’t think it’s an exaggeration.
     
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    While the subject of this thread is an extreme example road rage incidents culminating in the use of firearms are not all the unusual. Given the increasing propensity to "pack heat" they will probably become even more frequent. I guess it's an unfortunate but apparently acceptable price worth paying for a liberal (by political conservatives) interpretation of the Second Amendment.
    Some examples.
    ‘He’s lucky to be alive’: Woman recalls helping man shot in apparent road rage incident in Clay County
    3-Year-Old Shot And Killed In Apparent Road Rage While Riding In His Mom's Car, Police Say
    Sheriff: Man injured in road rage shooting in central Minnesota
    Daytona man man dies in road rage gun battle
    Highland Park police searching for driver who allegedly shot at vehicle in road rage incident
    Police: Fatal Hialeah shooting was result of road rage, shooter cooperating with investigation
     
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  14. ridgetop

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    SMH
    Why? Why politicize a true, simple statement just to earn points for your team?
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    You know gun owning isnt a profession or a public service, right? But that seems to be how the gun people view it. Like someone who owns a gun, anyone getting into a car after drinking can potentially harm someone. That's why you cant drink and drive. There are no 'good' drunk drivers right?
     
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    Keep being obtuse. You know the point was using a small sample size to cast all of the group in a bad light.
    Do you really want to compare drinking and driving to gun owners with guns in the car?
     
  17. Gatorhead

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    Is it me? It just seems that people are more impatient on the roadways. "Brake Checking", "Dangerous Aggressive Driving", "Impatience".

    Combine that with "armed men" that feel the best way to settle arguments is to blast caps......................

    I dunno ............... I'm older, have less testosterone, and am no longer willing to have a hospital stay to establish territoriality.

    Of course the younger among you will label me as a pu_ _ y.
    Hopefully the older among you will label me as wise.

    But did these guys accomplish anything good other than seriously injuring their own children?? SMH. Over What?

    It reminds me of an episode on I-10 a number of years ago. I think it was somewhere West of the 301 exit, two cars got in a little bit of a road exchange, late at night and one of the cars sticks a gun out the window and shoots into the passengers side window KILLING a female newlywed on the couples way to honeymoon. I don't think that crime was ever solved.........people are so cruel........
     
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  18. wgbgator

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    I think carrying around a gun in public is a lot like having a beer or two and driving, actually. Most people will probably be fine and not kill anyone, but there is necessarily going to be some human wreckage and poor decision making the more common it is. The main difference is that we are ok with people carrying around guns in public and there is a large lobby and political power behind it to encourage it.
     
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    Is your solution no guns, or guns are only ok in the home?
     
  20. gatordavisl

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    I guess the DeSantis take was partisan, but not the gun talk. This is an obvious symptom of a huge problem in the U.S.
     
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