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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by tommyvee, Oct 9, 2022.

  1. orangeblue_coop

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    What's ludicrous is crying over what a 55-year old man did when he was in college 35 years ago.
     
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  2. apkgator

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    I didn't bring it up.....you made an absurd statement about the topic and I called it out. I made no judgement as to this impacting the current situation. Your decision to be an apologist for all his mistakes got this going.
    My commentary on the topic at hand was on his pregame foolishness. Which was and remains inexcusable.
     
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  3. orangeblue_coop

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    If folks can be critical of Deion, then I can be critical of the sore loser coach whose players dropped the f-bomb to an opposing coach. If you're going to lock the thread then lock it, but don't act like I'm the reason why.
     
  4. ETGator

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    I have no intention of locking it.
     
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  5. bigDgator

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    If you want to start calling out sore losers there is no bigger one than Sanders. He wants all the glory and none of the blame. He is loyal to no one but himself and treats people like they are below him. I am hopeful that he ends up at FSU because he will eventually take a flamethrower to that place. Which is exactly what has needed to happen since cheating ass Bowden got there in the 70’s. Did he actually get a college degree? Has anyone fact checked that?
     
  6. antny1

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    This is how too hot threads go. Hyperbole and very little middle ground if any. I got dinged for being impressed by deions answers with the exception of that stupid who is swac ridiculousness but the guy knows how to talk. He had some good and some bad responses but they were articulated well.

    But it's not all or nothing and minimizing what a shameless self promoter he is by comparing coaching salaries or ignoring his 3rd person coach prime shtick is disingenuous.

    I'll also add that while he represented all that's wrong with college football with his 0.0 GPA season he apparently earned a degree in 2020 in business administration through talladega college. Whether he really earned it or not isn't for me to judge but he has earned some credibility to lead college athletes by taking the steps to finish his education regardless of what he did while at fsu. Just my opinion. He has some good and some bad but he is polarizing. Some of that is Fandom driven and some of that is through his own actions.
     
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  7. antny1

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    I felt like this as well but I checked to see of he had actually finished his degree which apparently he did. If not he'd be a massive hypocrite trying to coach college kids on life. At least he has that.
     
  8. apkgator

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    I think that's a very fair breakdown across the board. To me the pregame stuff remains the indefensible issue, can't see a way around that....but you can debate the other stuff. Like props for the degree, but color me a little dubious on what he put into that other than cash lol
     
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  9. 62gator

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  10. apkgator

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    You really want to feel old.....many of those dads were too young to really remember him very much as a player. Last pro bowl was 25 years ago. He will soon be appealling to the granddads
     
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  11. ETGator

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    That was spoken by an NFL agent . . . not an AD or an active coach. The G.O.A.T.? LOL!

    Farther in, the article starts getting to what I'm looking at:

    It remains to be seen whether Sanders' involvement in the Prime Prep Academy will affect his opportunities. The Dallas-area school closed after 2 ½ years for being in debt more than $650,000. Several persons sued the school. Sanders pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor after allegedly choking the school's CFO, according to the Washington Post.

    Sanders also threw multiple buckets of ice water on Tim McCarver in the locker room after McCarver was allegedly disrespectful by simply being critical of Sanders during a baseball broadcast. Sanders also walked out of the SWAC media days recently, I think twice, because people didn't refer to him the way he demanded (equating himself with Nick Saban). Now this . . . all evidence of a lack of composure necessary for a P5 head coach.

    "I gotta believe there are college presidents that would say no [to hiring Sanders]," said a Power Five administrator.

    Given Sanders' well-established history I believe most would say no. I guess we'll see though.
     
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  12. 62gator

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    It’s a brutal cutthroat sport, where virtually anything goes now, anything! Most will say no, but it only takes one desperate program void of scruples to yes, and several will, see SOW, Auburn, etc.
     
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  13. orangeblue_coop

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    In that case, he sounds like every other college head football coach in America.
     
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  14. ETGator

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    We've endured your biased hyperbole enough. You've falsely claimed that Coach Spurrier is like Deion Sanders and now Coach Napier "wants all the glory and none of the blame. He is loyal to no one but himself and treats people like they are below him."

    Absolute BS.

    You're now thread-banned for insulting Florida coaches. Twice at least.
     
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    Sanders would have had to try to tackle Bo first. Sanders was not physical at all.

    Great cover CB; yes, but I doubt they even had to wash his uniforms
     
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    Oh so now you're defending kids skipping class because it worked out for their coach because it worked out in the end.

    Kidding sorta but I had to say it, the hypocrisy is too strong with this one. It almost sounds like you typed it.:emoji_sweat_smile:
     
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  18. gator_n_sc

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    I've said it somewhere within my several long-winded posts but Deion as Primetime Deion, the DB that made the #21 popular, was that dude, and his personality is massive, it's what has carried him his post playing career. He has had reality TV shows amd analyst for his commentary. Still a little early to give a fair judgement on his coaching as his team it far more talented then the others in the league, but that's because he recruited very well for them. My issue is just own it. All that happened because prime wanted it too. He alluded to it when he said he sold it very well. He talks and gets under his opponents skin. Mission accomplished but just own that shit, don't get righteous now... and act taken aback because the other guy stopped him from hugging him. Shake the hand and move on. Own that shit amd stop acting like you don't know why he's mad.
     
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  19. antny1

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    I don't disagree. You said it well. I'm not a fan of his nor am I defending him across the board but I try to look at things as objectively as I can. I side more with his detractors by a considerable amount.
     
  20. bigDgator

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    I agree with many that Deion created his persona and it was very successful along with his tremendous skills as an athlete. What I do not agree with is that he has ever changed from being completely self-centered, only using people around him as pawns, including his own family. He tries to come off as being all about the players now. Puh-Leeze. Sell that stuff somewhere else.
     
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