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What does the GOP want to do about the country's problems?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatorchamps960608, Oct 8, 2022.

  1. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Like "defund the police"?
    Like "war on women"?
    Like "common sense gun control"?
    Like " healing the soal of America" (that ones from the DNC platform)

    These are just phrases too.

    I've read the democratic platform. Saying Trump was bad and we are gonna reverse all his bad stuff, isnt really a platform.
     
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  2. swampbabe

    swampbabe GC Hall of Fame

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    If the Republicans have a better idea, I’d like to hear it. The thing is, they don’t. They rely on anger and grievance and NO substantive alternatives.

    Also, the DNC platform in 2020 did have some substance to it but you did have to actually read the whole thing.
     
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  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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  4. swampbabe

    swampbabe GC Hall of Fame

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    The next time you offer something substantive to a thread will be the first time :cool:
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    The next time you add something without sass, snark would be a refreshing first.
    You’re literally repeating the same thing over and over. And your takes aren’t exactly ground breaking.
     
  6. littlebluelw

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    No. My post was a direct response to the OP. He's being lazy and just wanting to argue rather than use the internets to do his own research and find answers to these oh so difficult questions.
    Research, read, digest and decide for yourself.
     
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  7. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    • School choice for every parent. Everywhere.
    • A cost benefit component to all environmental ordinance with a slight lean toward benefit.
    • A healthcare plan with no "family glitch", affordability etc. But we need to get on the right side of this issue. Incorporating tort reform as part of this policy.
    • Sound economic/jobs plan that helps people trapped in cyclical situations move forward
    • Establish a compassionate pro life position. Rape, Incest, Life of mother provisions should be codified.
    • More realistic modern approach to gun control.
    • A Reaganesque view on immigration.
    • Better modernized messaging to combat the bully buzzwords from the left.
    • Stop eating our own.
    Thats for starters.
     
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  8. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I read every word.

    The "Healing the soul of America" portion is a lot of words with no real plan. Just rhetoric on how bad the Trump and conservatives are.

    Platforms are mostly, "We stand for this! We stand against that!" But the actual specific actionable ideas are generally not in the platform.
     
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  9. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Not sure that makes this a troll thread. People could actually lay out policies (not loose goals or metrics that they would like to see be different, but actual policies) that they want to see accomplished. It is just interesting how little of that there actually is, and how little of that there is in the Republican Party, to the point that the Republican Party just gave up on even writing a platform.
     
  10. swampbabe

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    I did. I read both Rick Scott’s plan and the one put out by Kevin McCarthy. Nothing of substance.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    I don't think you read the whole thing then. Here are some of the Democratic plans from the platform on Healthcare:

    Install a public option for health insurance
    Increase innovation waivers to incentivize states to try different versions of universal healthcare
    Doubling investments in community health centers and rural health clinics
    Medicare can negotiate drug prices
    Out of pocket caps for seniors paying for prescriptions
    Capping subsidized insurance expenses at 8.5% of income
    Outlaw surprise medical billing due to issues of in- and out-of-network doctors.
    Increasing mental health services, especially in rural and prison environments

    And I am only about half way through it. All specific policies, with outcomes that could either come to pass, with enough votes, or not if they can't obtain the votes. These aren't just hand waving generalized goals.
     
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  12. swampbabe

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    Generally speaking, you’re correct although there was some specificity in the Democrats 2020 platform. It’s now 2022 and Republicans still have no plan except ginned up grievance. They didn’t even formulate a platform in 2020.

    Which actually was a pain for me because I do an activity with my AP government students where we compare the party platforms and I had to explain in very non-partisan way why Republicans chose not to put one out.
     
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  13. snatchmagnet

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    I’ve said it multiple time. The engine is already flooded. It’s not gonna magically fire back up. The fix is a recession. You can’t just pump that much cash into the system and expect a different result. There is no quick fix. Just stupid people behind the wheel.
     
  14. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Noted. But Its also noted that each state GOP has a platform the one here is pretty in depth. Not sure a national platform that just sys all the likes and dislikes of the party is that important in the grand scheme.
     
  15. tilly

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    "Increasing mental health services" is not a plan. It is an idea.
    "Outlaw surprise medical billing" is not a plan. It is an idea.

    Thats my point. Everyone has ideas.
     
  16. tilly

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    It's midterms. Every state GOP has a platform I assume. There is no federal election. Not sure it matters much anyway, but much less in a midterm year.

    The state platforms are on the ballot.
     
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    Pubs don't need a plan, everything will right itself when the Dems are out......:monkey::ninja3:
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    Actually, both are plans. Increasing mental health services means funding additional mental health services in both locations through funding legislation. Outlaw surprise medical billing in a specific instance is a planned piece of legislation. And that is ignoring how you ignored the rest of the bullet points. All are potential bases for pieces of legislation.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    It matters if you want to run the federal government. If you only want to compete at a state level, then it wouldn't really matter. But if you want to be put in charge of the federal government, it is not ridiculous to ask for a platform of actionable goals for the party to execute in charge of a federal government.
     
  20. dangolegators

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    At least Rick Scott's plan had some specific proposals in it. Like people making minimum wage should still be required to pay federal income taxes so they have 'skin in the game'. Or like Social Security and Medicare should have to be reapproved by congress every few years.