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Ben Sasse next UF president?

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  1. 108

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    Sasse isn’t a moderate, he’s very conservative.

    If being pro-Democracy makes you a moderate, this country is in huge trouble..
     
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  2. gtr2x

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    Yea, there are those that believe industry experience doesn't matter, a great CEO can lead any company. I'm not one that buys that tho. I've seen a bunch fail.
     
  3. apkgator

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    I am one that believes it....and have seen it occur over and over. Would agree it can do nothing but help to have industry experience, but imo the true leadership qualities generally cross industry lines
     
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  4. gtr2x

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    In my experience, it comes down to a buy in by the direct reports who do have industry experience. If they're on board all good, if not disaster strikes quickly.
     
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  5. ursidman

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    I agree and for this reason he should make a huge positive splash quickly. If he can all will be forgiven/overlooked.
     
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  6. apkgator

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    That's a valid point....often the CEO brings in some of their own people for key roles. That may not be as easy or applicable in this situation. But IMO if the direct reports are true quality they will respect a quality leader regardless of industry background.
     
  7. ncargat1

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    I think every grad student with half a brain researches schools, programs, individual professors, research areas, reputation with the field and % of students successful in first time dissertation defense, as well as post graduate school employment and probably several other factors when choosing a school, research track and professor to study from. Yes.

    When the elite research professors leave, the top grad students stop coming. Without those two things, major research grants (including stipends for teaching) go away and the quality of the department diminishes. When that happens, UF turns into FIU.

    So, do I think most undergrads getting into school will even know who the president of the university is? No. Will the president directly impact the choices of undergrad students? For the most part, probably not. Can it impact grad students, grad school and the overall quality of the university. Absolutely.
     
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  8. StrangeGator

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    UF is no better than it was when it was ranked 9th. Only reason they moved up was US News pulling the service academies from the public universities rankings.
     
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  9. Tjgators

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    he's a conservative when it benefits him
     
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  10. BLING

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    So, just like your spray tanned lord-god and every Republican that pretends to be conservative (which is… all of them).
     
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  11. tampajack1

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    A year ago, UF, because it was pushed by its Board of Trustees/DeSantis, hired Joseph Ladapo as a tenured professor. I don’t trust these people to act in the best interest of UF.
     
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  12. ncargat1

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    Actually, the deal was brokered by the Chairman of the Board of Trustees "Mori" Hosseini. He was a top DeSantis contributor in 2016. This dude has no business being anywhere near being on the Board of Trustees for UF. Below is a link to a story about how he is the personal conduit between DeSantis and the Office of the President at UF.

    At least with a DeSantis Bitch in the President's Office, they can cut out Hosseini and DeSantis can set policy for UF directly now.

    Mori Hosseini, UF trustee chairman, was pandemic link to DeSantis
     
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  13. scrappygator

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    Evidently, you did not review the rankings.
    Your Clown Collge is #19 in public universities, so 15 would be too close for comfort.
    In my opinion, UF being so strong has lifted FSU's standing.
    As UF was making entry harder, more quality students went to FSU.
    Be careful what you wish for.
     
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  14. ajoseph

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    UF’s standing and competitiveness has made all of the State schools better. FSU is getting a much stronger applicant pool because it will take candidates who want instate tuition and Bright Future money, but who maybe just missed out on getting into UF. And the same trickle down theory applies to the balance of the State schools.
     
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  15. oragator1

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    Whether UF is actually better is open for debate, but 2 points-
    The academies were removed a decade ago or so I think, our rise isn’t about them falling off.
    I think UF is a better school than it was. It is far more selective (I wouldn’t get in today), the student teacher ratio is down from 21:1 to 17:1, so kids are getting more hands on instruction. A higher percentage of kids actually graduate than ever before so more time and energy is invested in the kids on campus. And the quality of faculty has gone up as the rankings have. We always had good faculty, but one it’s getting towards other elite, and with that have come research dollars, we are over a billion this year.
     
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  16. slayerxing

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    Listening to his presentation to the faculty senate right now. He's a good speaker. Facing some tough questions about his politics and how he will handle Florida politics right from the start.
     
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  17. oragator1

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    Good,
    Get the hardest stuff out there right away.
     
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  18. OklahomaGator

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    Thanks keep us informed with any news.
     
  19. slayerxing

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    Nothing really earth shattering. he's very good at staying on message. Tells good anecdotes. A lot of what he says is stuff i've read skimming his 2 books. Corrected the record (don't know if true or not) about not liking psychology. Was super passionate speaking out against the Chinese communist party but said he looks forward to recruiting talented international students, including Chinese students and to not mistake his ire regarding the Chinese communist party with some dislike of Chinese people as a whole. Talked a lot about how he sees value in individual people. Plans to be a strong defender of Tenure at UF because it is an important tool in our tool belt for recruiting the best faculty and despite his stance against tenure at his previous institution he thinks it makes a lot of sense here and he will defend it vigorously. Not familiar with a lot of the politics in florida right now, but when responding to the Stop Woke act, he said he is a historian and believes that it is extremely important to discuss and debate the original sin of racism in this country, especially in the classroom, and that we have to be able to have tough conversations in those spaces. That being said, he also wants the university to be an inclusive place, for all people. He said that last part in saying he will stand up for diverse members of the UF community including the LGBTQ+ community. The one place he was a little light is describing how he wants to lead and who he imagines hiring. He keeps saying he needs to learn about UF metrics for success - I think he will have a long administrative climb into the position.

    In a nutshell.
     
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  20. ajoseph

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    What’s he saying?

    I’m also curious if he talks about his views on tenure, and academic freedom.