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What does the GOP want to do about the country's problems?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatorchamps960608, Oct 8, 2022.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Actually, currently, only one side has a platform. Republicans didn't even pass one.

    It reminds me of when they claimed they had a plan for how to replace ACA, and, when in power, suddenly their "plans" turned out to not be actionable at all.

    Meanwhile, Biden has passed actual legislation for things like infrastructure, healthcare, environmental issues, etc. Actual bills, not just diagrams or loose goals, but real legislation. With less Democrats in Congress than Trump had Republicans.

    There is an instinct to "both sides" this, but that doesn't make it true.
     
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  2. gatorchamps960608

    gatorchamps960608 GC Hall of Fame

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    Psst...here's a little secret for you.

    An idea is not the same thing as a plan.

    You're welcome.
     
  3. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    He didnt ask for a platform. He asked what they "want to do".
    He was given a list. The list was mocked.

    I hate Trump, but MANY things were passed under his administration. You may not like or agree with them, but this isea that Biden suddenly reintroduced the idea of a functioning agenda to Pennsylvania Ave is nonsense.

    Trump's biggest accomplishments and failures from his 1-term presidency

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/12/31/best-things-trump-did-2020/

    Trump Administration Accomplishments – The White House
     
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  4. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    The ideas have a plan. Some good. Some bad, but are you going to act like the semantics mattered?

    This thread had one purpose.
     
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  5. dangolegators

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    Legit political list of ideas? Like 'reduce spending' and 'stop fentanyl from coming into the country'?
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    Got to love this study. Libertarian guy from the Cato Institute says lockdowns had no effect on covid mortality. And how did they arrive at that determination? They used a filtering process to screen 18,590 studies down to 24. So sounds like they found 24 studies that agreed with their foregone conclusion.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    You said that both parties have platforms. That is actually factually untrue.

    Yeah, I looked at that list. They aren't actual policies aside from the tax cut. They are mostly descriptions of data or platitudes (unleashed energy!). That isn't a policy.
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    if you as an individual have paid that much YTD in federal income taxes you should be rich or hiring a new accountant or check your spending habits. That would put you well into the 400k + income bracket and most would consider that as being rich. I agree that our gubmnt ahs a spending problem but reducing the incoem to the gubmntisn't going to stop that without a balanced budget amendment. Both parties like spending money too much
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    the only thing holding back the energy sector is the energy sector. they are not willing to finance long term energy plays when they fear that long term may be 5 - 10 years instead of 30 - 50

    can debate that in the O & G thread if you feel so inclined. I jsut posted an article there about lack of financing for energy projects worldwide.

    Oil and Gas | Page 3 | Swamp Gas Forums (gatorcountry.com)

    I would agree that we need a much better pipeline systema nd woudl argue that pipelines should be built within the medians or ROW of the interstate highway system. The fact that we are sitting on massive nat gas supplies and still heating homes with fuel oil is criminal. Even simple things like moving gasoline to SW Florida. Trucking it from Miami instead of building a pipeline to the west coast to a regional distribution center.
     
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  10. dangolegators

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    Given that you are paying well more in federal taxes than most American families make in a year, it kinda sounds like you are rich.
     
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  11. swampbabe

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    None of those are plans, though.
     
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  12. tilly

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    Like Defund the police?
    Stop the war on women?

    Yeah, ideas are often veiled in stupidly (non-nuanced) overly simplified jargon.

    But he asked a question. The one taking the time to answer shouldnt be getting buried for obliging.
     
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  13. tilly

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    So then this was just a troll thread then? I mean since a certain segment of posters here believe there is no answer to the OP question, that seems to be what you are saying.
     
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  14. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Neither are most of the corny phrases that any political party throws out. But there are plans that coincide with those corny phrases. We just either like them or we don't. This thread had one purpose.
     
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  15. dangolegators

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    He's not getting buried for obliging. As you say, his ideas were 'veiled in stupidly (non-nuanced) overly simplified jargon'. And we are pointing that out, as you just did.
     
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  16. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Then what is the OP looking for? Plans are often submitted in this simplified way.

    I gave links with a plethora of accomplishments from the orange guy, but they were all cast as some silly phrase when they set out.

    And the silly phrases I pointed out, did have a plan attached. I didn't agree with the plan, but there was a plan.
     
  17. swampbabe

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    Again, no plan, just empty phrases.
     
  18. littlebluelw

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    See post 7
     
  19. 108

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    @tilly curious what you’d like to see passed by a Republican administration?
     
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  20. swampbabe

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    I did just what you suggested, the only thing I could find that might be remotely applicable was a paywalled article in the WSJ.

    Looking at the GOPs track record I would assume that it’s tax cuts that will blow up the deficit worse than what it already is because that is the only answer that they ever have.

    Edit to add: is this what you’re talking about?

    An Economy That's Strong - Commitment to America
     
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