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Ron DeSantis Cooks Breakfast At Waffle House For Hurricane First Responders

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by flgator2, Oct 2, 2022.

  1. BossaGator

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    Wow. This thread is really a stark demonstration of the Dunning Kruger effect.
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    This is false. It is common to support amendments to bills that you oppose, because you prefer the bill with the amendment to the bill without the amendment, even if you plan to vote against the bill as a whole still. Common legislative tactic.
     
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  3. gator95

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    You sound like Abrams now saying she didn't claim the 2018 race was stolen. Just making up shit. I get it, you look dumb and are just digging deeper and deeper. Just move on like you did on school closures, lockdowns and masks.

     
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  4. mdgator05

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    I mean this is ridiculous standard. It outlaws no funding for anything. So I guess he supported funding literally everything you can think of with this amendment.

    You know what doesn't allow for funding for Sandy relief? His no vote for Sandy relief in the main bill vote. That was what would have outlawed that spending.
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    Yeah, everybody here is pointing out how dumb you look. Not me. So good luck selling that one to anything but your ego trying desperately to avoid being shattered. Lol!
     
  6. gator95

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    Oh, you mean the libby pool of DeSantis haters? Oh no! Oh my goodness. You and the other far lefties are too clouded in your hate of everything Desantis that you willfully will lie to people and some people will buy it because they are stupid. Then you have people who actually vote not down party lines like Tilly and I. So sure, lets take the opinion of far left partisan posters. Brilliant!
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    Yeah, you can't address the substantive point in any way. Which is why you are resorting to this. So in conclusion: DeSantis voted against both Sandy relief bills and you are big mad about it and tried to make a false claim that voting for an amendment is the same as voting for a bill (strange that they are two separate votes given this claim, huh?). It got called out, you can't dispute the call outs except with ad hominem against those that called you out, and here we are. Good luck with your personal needs, but the point has been proven.
     
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  8. kygator

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    Not with me. I can pretty much say that I am an expert. Go ahead, ask me anything about Waffle House breakfasts.
     
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  9. gator95

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    I can post him approving the amendment again if you are confused about that. It's not that complicated. The Generals keep falling for the hidden ball trick LOL.
     
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  10. philnotfil

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    Is there any funding in the amendment?
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    The amendment contains no funding. As such, he didn't vote for funding.
     
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  12. gator95

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    LOL, this isn't complicated. He voted Aye for 17B in sandy funding.
     
  13. philnotfil

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    When did DeSantis vote Aye for 17B in sandy funding?
     
  14. gator95

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    Desantis voted for 17B in sandy funding. Not difficult to understand for someone who doesn't have an agenda.
     
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  15. gator95

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    Go back and read. I posted it.
     
  16. mdgator05

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    No, he did not, in fact. He voted to cut 1.63% of discretionary funding to all projects. Nothing he voted for contained $17 Billion in funding for Sandy. The only bill that did contain that funding, he voted against. It is really not complicated, you just wish it wasn't so. So here we are.
     
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  17. gator95

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    Nope. 17B in funding by DeSantis. Voted Aye. Game. Set. Match.
     
  18. mdgator05

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    Yep, it has been over for a long time. All we are left with is you trying to cover for your L. There was no funding in anything he voted yes for. He voted only to cut spending to other programs, not to provide Sandy funding. When Sandy funding came to a vote, he voted no. Twice. Don't worry, we will all remember how badly you embarrassed yourself here.
     
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  19. philnotfil

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    Here is the full text of the amendment DeSantis voted for, can you identify the 17B in sandy funding?

    After section 904 (but before the short title), insert the
    following new section:
    Sec. 905. (a) There is hereby rescinded an amount equal to
    1.63 percent of--
    (1) the budget authority provided (or obligation limitation
    imposed) for fiscal year 2013 for any discretionary account
    in any fiscal year 2013 appropriation Act;
    (2) the budget authority provided in any advance
    appropriation for fiscal year 2013 for any discretionary
    account in any prior fiscal year appropriation Act; and
    (3) the contract authority provided in fiscal year 2013 for
    any program that is subject to a limitation contained in any
    fiscal year 2013 appropriation Act for any discretionary
    account.
    (b) Any rescission made by subsection (a) shall be applied
    proportionately--
    (1) to each discretionary account and each item of budget
    authority described in such subsection; and
    (2) within each such account and item, to each program,
    project, and activity (with programs, projects, and
    activities as delineated in the appropriation Act or
    accompanying reports for the relevant fiscal year covering
    such account or item, or for accounts and items not included
    in appropriation Acts, as delineated in the most recently
    submitted President's budget).
    (c) In the case of any fiscal year 2013 appropriation Act
    enacted after the date of enactment of this section, any
    rescission required by subsection (a) shall take effect
    immediately after the enactment of such Act.
    (d) Within 30 days after the date of enactment of this
    section (or, if later, 30 days after the enactment of any
    fiscal year 2013 appropriation Act), the Director of the
    Office of Management and Budget shall submit to the
    Committees on Appropriations of the House of Representatives
    and the Senate a report specifying the account and amount of
    each rescission made pursuant to subsection (a).
     
  20. demosthenes

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    I don’t know how you can say md, 40, phil and others are not looking at it objectively. Links have been provided to the actual votes and text of bills and that’s what their comments are based upon.

    In short, there was a hurricane relief bill proposed and in the usual process legislators propose amendments to the bill before it is voted upon. One such amendment limited discretionary spending and that’s what Desantis voted for on January 15 at 4:25 p.m. Later that evening the final bill with the funding and all the approved amendments came up for a vote at 7:25 p.m. and Desantis voted against it. Anyone claiming Desantis voted for the funding is flat out wrong. His vote, even assuming the amendment had passed, would not have provided a single dollar of funding. It also wasn’t to eliminate “pork” in the bill it would have amended but simply force the government to reduce spending elsewhere. Further, Desantis also voted against increasing FEMA flood insurance funding by $9.7B on Jan 4th in response to deficits caused by Sandy. So no, he did not vote for a single dollar to aid Sandy relief.


    All that being said, I don’t have a problem with Desantis cooking at Waffle House. I think our politicians need to spend more time amongst their constituents. I doesn’t bother me that it was likely for optics over any real compassion (yes, this is my biased perception of his motives) - it wouldn’t be anything new for politics and can still have positive impacts.
     
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