The Supreme Court Is On The Verge Of Killing The Voting Rights Act

I've given up trying to make the photo small enough to post a picture of.

I actually have a mini shrine on a shelf to Thaddeus Stevens and the passage of the 14th Amendment. They don't make them like the Great Commoner anymore

 

It's much more complex than that based upon historical standards of factors you need to consider such as trying to keep together other historical communities, etc. But the bottom line is it doesn't matter. John Roberts will never allow that. They have consistently undermined independent redistricting. You are swimming they are trying to do something fair. They're not. They're trying to create a partisan advantage

 

Never happen since it takes the reds and blues power away.

 

For factors to consider in redistricting, see

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN11618

This case will likely get rid of the second consideration listed.

Here’s an article on Roberts’ prior dissent trying to rule is unconstitutional independent redistricting conditions. The composition of the court has changed and he will likely be in the majority on a future decision. In fact, they may get there via Moore v. Harper. They are in a hurry to rule over society in every area possible

Roberts' dissent then offers a lengthy rebuttal to the idea that authority given to a state's "legislature" could ever go to an independent commission instead, saying that the decision amounted to a "judicial error of the most basic order."

'What chumps!': John Roberts' dissent in a major Supreme Court case is dripping with sarcasm

Bottom line, this Court will not permit any reform or system they view as limiting Republican advantages in state houses. If Democrats had a majority of state legislatures, they would quickly overrule any prior decision on the independent legislature doctrine. They are pure political actors

 

And now it’s run its course…. I’m not a fan of any racism or racist ideology. Democrats want to believe minorities always act and think differently than whites. I feel like we all basically want the same things. Democrats also don’t think minorities aren’t smart enough to do things like obtain voter identification. I do.

 

Get out the Vote efforts in every state and county must help voters overcome ALL obstacles under=served voters face, plain and simple. The current trend toward nationalism will not magically disappear anytime soon. Maybe 10% of all Democratic campaign funds raised should support get out the vote efforts.

 

Look. I dont put it past either side to try and work the system. So perhaps the pubs are here.

But it isnt because they want IDs and verification of ballot validity. That is just political nonsense from the other side

Gerrymandering is an issue that has at least on the surface raised my eyebrows, but this nonsense about not being able to get an ID is just rediculous.

 

The 14th amendment is central to this.

 

He literally posted 3 sites rated as liberal or extreme liberal by the ranking sites and two of his own posts.

It would be like me quoting FOX, Breitbart, Infowars and two of my posts.

So excuse me if I dont find his "research" compelling.

Again, I dont have time to fact check every leftist comment nor do I care to...so perhaps the onus is on the person posting links to use unbiased ones.

I dont read infowars posts and links either.

 

All the stuff in this thread and you single that out?

The point is I never just read a random post and assume I now "know" anything.

The post could be baseless, biased and dead wrong.

I should have taken a better approach as to not seem it was aimed at the poster as much as the comment and general idea that we "know" anything from a random message board post.

If thats what you are saying than I can agree and didnt mean it that way.

 

Absolutely.
Everyone knows you can vote at 18. From this point of adulthood some form of ID is required to function in society. To drive, buy alcohol or cigarettes, to open a bank account or cash a check, to get a job etc...
Claiming discrimination because you are asked to verify yourself is asinine. A middle aged person has had since the age of 18 to get some form of ID.

 

LOL to you baconators. The 14th amendment was specifically brought up in oral arguments several times yesterday.

 

Love Justice KBJ! She laid it out there, unequivocally.

Of course, your detractors are correct in one very cynical manner. The 14th Amendment facially guarantees equal protection (among other things), but almost from the moment it passed, our political culture has tried to make that guarantee as meaningless as possible. The Supreme Court has led the way.

And they are still very much working on it today. So viewed very cynically, the 14th Amendment really is irrelevant, because we have elected not to actually enforce its language

 

What percentage of the country doesn't have an ID that would count for voting? Perhaps your experience isn't universal.

 

That's my point. Everyone should have some form of state issued ID. If you don't then it's on that person. You need an ID to function in society. If someone claims discrimination that's on themselves. Federal elections take place every few years. If you don't have ID you have a few years to get one to vote in the next election. If you still don't have one then that your own doing.

 

That didn't answer the question. What percentage of people don't have one?

 

A quick search says less than 1 percent

 

That is significantly lower than every source I saw on a Google search. Brennan Center put it at 11%. What is the source for less than 1%?

 

Claiming discrimination because you are asked to verify yourself is asinine. A middle aged person has had since the age of 18 to get some form of ID.

Amen to this. Also helps keep dead people, non citizens, and fake mail ballots from voting.