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gas to drop 25 cents a gallon Oct. 1, thanks desantis

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. WC53

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    Just a ploy, just like back to school sales tax waivers.
     
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  2. demosthenes

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    They don’t tax enough on fuels as it is.
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    Yep, and lean... with no state income tax states like Florida, already spend sparingly/wisely on infrastructure.
     
  4. demosthenes

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    In several states electric vehicles pay more to register vehicles to make up for lost revenues. I don’t know if Florida does but where I live it’s $110 a year.
     
  5. channingcrowderhungry

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    For those arguing about taxes, just know the money to cover this shortfall from lost tax revenue is coming from Federal Covid Relief funds. So give the credit where it's due.
     
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  6. Gatorrick22

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    Our state has a great budget manager in chief... Our taxes are mostly consumption type with very high property taxes... because everyone wants to move here. I have no problem with the way they tax us here in the state of Florida

    I think California has a surplus too, but they do it by taxing the living crap out of people, and they do it with a state income tax.

    Florida Posts $21.8 Billion Budget Surplus, a State Record
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    And that surplus would go a long way in financing disaster relief following Hurricane Ian.
    Hurricane Ian is a major challenge for Florida — and DeSantis
    Adding the caveat that the article was published before the hurricane actually came ashore. While the surplus will certainly help it will not come anywhere close to cover the real cost of response and recovery.
     
  8. WarDamnGator

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    Not seeing it, according to Gas Buddy, updated 3 hours ago, Gas prices haven't come down at all in my area. Do they actually have to lower the price, or can the gas station just pocket the savings?
     
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  9. homer

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    Does that cover US highways like interstates? Counties also get money for roads with gas taxes at the pump and local taxes.

    $ 110.00 a year is not nearly what a normal person pays in yearly taxes at the pump. Better than nothing I guess.

    How about an across the board user tax based on your yearly mileage? It can be tweaked for delivery services like the USPS, etc.
     
  10. back2back2006

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    But didn't Biden sign like a TRILLION DOLLAR infrastructure bill?
     
  12. VAg8r1

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    Actually $110 billion of the trillion dollar bill was designated for road and bridges and that's over a five year period. And as an advocate of states rights you should be aware that road construction is a joint state federal responsibility.
     
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  13. VAg8r1

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    Obviously an election ploy. Virtually every other governor who provided residents of his state gas tax relief, Larry Hogan of Maryland coming immediately to mind, did so last spring when gas prices were going through the roof. DeSantis did so roughly a month prior to the election following an almost 4-month decline in the price of gas at the pump.

    The blue line in the graph below is the average price at the pump in Orlando. If DeSantis was really concerned with the effect of high gas prices on residents of the state he would have implemented the 25 cent tax reduction when the price of gas at the pump was approaching $5.00 a gallon, not waiting until it was closer to $3.30.
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  14. demosthenes

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    How much a person pays right now is a direct result of miles driven and mpg. A Toyota Prius driver only pays $57 a year driving 12,000 miles. So I dispute the notion than an EV getting an equivalent of twice the mileage of a Prius is underpaying by paying $100+.

    That being said, basing it on mileage is the fairest way to tax it but how many people want gps trackers on their cars?
     
  15. ridgetop

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    The guys that whined about Biden lowering gas prices for a few months are the ones cheering DeSantis and the ones that cheered and supported Biden are the ones hammering DeSantis now.
    More tribalism.
    My side is right your side is wrong. Yes we did the exact same thing but my side did with good intentions in their heart and your side did as an evil ploy to take over the world.”
    Welcome to politics
     
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  16. gator7_5

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    Yeah. Gas prices today are the same as yesterday around me.
     
  17. buckeyegator

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    so i assume if you live in florida you will not buy gas this month,or better yet go inside and give the cashier money to even it out, not.
     
  18. buckeyegator

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    dropped where i live,west of gainesville
     
  19. gators81

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    I don’t think anyone is opposed to DeSantis doing it, I think the criticism is what took so long? I’m not a fan of Gov Kemp here in Ga, but he did this MONTHS ago. When I visited FL back in April I was shocked at how much more gas cost than prices in Ga, nearly a dollar more per gallon. I’ve seen gas as low as $2.85 a gallon in the NE suburbs of Atlanta.
     
  20. demosthenes

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    I’m agnostic to the gas tax reductions but they are certainly helpful to those living paycheck to paycheck. So whatever the motives I won’t deride the positive aspects of such a move.

    That being said, I think there is a difference. If Desantis thought fuel prices were too high then why didn’t he pause gas taxes in the spring when gas prices were much higher? Why do it now after they’ve fallen 25%? I think it’s fair to question the timing of such a move the month prior to elections.
     
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