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The history of the FBI

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by back2back2006, Oct 1, 2022.

  1. back2back2006

    back2back2006 GC Legend

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    With an explanation of it's creation and what their job entails.

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  2. VAg8r1

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    Maybe it's just me but if you're really serious about your posts at least include a substantive summary of the videos that you post. As far as the FBI is concerned while the Bureau has a less than illustrious history especially under J. Edgar Hoover that still doesn't invalidate a legitimate search of the residence of a former president who has blatantly violated the law which I'm sure is what you're trying to infer by posting the video. By the way, virtually every law enforcement agency of any size has made errors some of which have had tragic consequences.
     
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  3. back2back2006

    back2back2006 GC Legend

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    So do I really need to give you a book report on the history of the FBI? Just watch the damn video. I know you didn't watch the video.
     
  4. gatorchamps960608

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    Ben Shapiro = hard pass

    Actually, any video from this useless poster = hard pass
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    I watched part of it and it essentially was cut and paste bull shit and once again if you were actually serious you would have included at least some text supporting your position. Rather than watching a video by Ben Shapiro you can probably learn more about the FBI's history by clicking on this link and while the guy who resides in a suite a Mar-a-Lago for a little over half the year isn't actually a spy he is definitely a useful idiot.
    Russian spies living among us: Inside the FBI's "Operation Ghost Stories"
    Since you like YouTube videos these are probably more entertaining than the one in the original post.

     
  6. flgator2

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    That's why you'll always be ignorant. I don't mean this to be an insult just stating the facts
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    Cannot speak for @gatorchamps960608 but speaking for myself if I want serious commentary and analysis I wouldn't rely on a video from Ben Shapiro. As I previously stated if someone is really serious he should take the time to actually write an explanation or at a minimum at least link to an article with serious analysis.
     
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  8. homer

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    I attended a class at FLETC with some FBI dudes.


    They were a strange lot. So serious, hardly ever smiled.
     
  9. carpeveritas

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    There are some members who will find the video informational concerning the origins and role of the FBI in American society. There are some members who care less and take a pass on the subject matter. Finally we have some members who would prefer to attack and belittle the source of the information, the person delivering the information and the member who posted the information hoping to get a rise out of the poster or the THFSG community.

    There is value to the video that the OP posted specifically for those that want to know more about the origins of the FBI and how this agency permeates all aspects of American life. There is certainly debate to be had concerning the long reach and tactics used by the FBI on American citizens. I do understand these are sensitive subjects that should be of concern to all Americans.

    Granted a majority of society will go along with their daily lives and never have any interaction with the FBI. For the minuscule portion of the population that finds themselves in the unfortunate position of having to deal with the FBI an even smaller cohort have legitimate complaints that often makes national news and social media stand up and take notice.

    That said there is plenty of information in the video worthy of discussion. I have to agree @VAg8r1 makes a valid point concerning a summary of topics covered should be included. Such a summary should serve as the basis for discussion and debate.

    Summary:
    Within the first minute the video focuses on trust in the FBI asking what is the FBI, what is the FBI supposed to do and do we even need the FBI. The video goes on to highlight the origins, growth, good / bad deeds and ends asking what can / should be done to limit and punish the FBI when the FBI misuses it's authority.

     
  10. Spurffelbow833

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    All you have to know about the FBI is who it started with.
     
  11. GatorNorth

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    My best friend in college became an FBI agent-was an accounting major-a very common degree for Feebs because so much of what they chase is financial fraud.

    Guy was as staunch a Republican as I’ve ever known, a complete Ronald Reagan acolyte.

    But in the 30 years he was a fed, and in all of our conversations about crime and politics, never once did I hear him say anything remotely close to partisan jargon that we see today. If someone committed a crime then they were fair game to him, regardless of their politics, whether it be Bill Clinton or Donald Trump.

    And the stories he would tell me about J Edgar’s private files? OMG. That guy knew everyone’s secrets.

    I was one of his references and came home to my apartment in Gainesville one day and had an agent’s card taped to my apartment door and a note with my name that simply said “call me ASAP”.

    The guy never told me he put my down as a reference. One of my roommates came home before I did, saw the note and left town for his parents house in Orlando. My other roomie arrived with me, saw the note and turned around for his car. And I had no idea why the FBI would be looking for me (was in law school at the time and all I could think was “this could really screw up the bar exam”).

    Called them back, answered all the questions without hesitation until they asked “does the candidate smoke weed”?. When I hesitated before answering the guy said “so you’ve never witnessed him smoking weed?” And I said “yes that’s correct” and we moved on.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    I think that still applies to the overwhelming majority of FBI agents. Most of them are probably above politics. The problem is that sadly a number of so called Republicans/conservatives believe that the former president should be above the law and if he is the target of an investigation it's because the investigative agency whether its the FBI, other federal agencies or state AGs are biased the Dear Leader.

    While the Bureau is still far from perfect (that applies to every organization) the FBI post J. Edgar Hoover is not the same organization that it was under Hoover.
     
  13. carpeveritas

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    The FBI certainly has rot within it and for some given the actions of the FBI here of late and in the past is a national issue of major consequence.

    To that end it begs the question of what is to be done with the bad actors specifically in the upper echelons of authority. What we are witnessing today are cover ups, document manipulation and intentionally dubious FISA requests to say the least. When all of this is brought to light there is minimal to no consequence for those that abuse the authority they enjoy.

    That said I did watch your videos a summary of what they are about would have been helpful.
     
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