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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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    Clear example of the problem. Flgator is so blindly partisan he’s will to agree with the virus denier just because he’s on the same team. Craziness.
     
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  2. PITBOSS

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    Evidence keeps piling up - there is a strong correlation between lack of education and being anti-vax. Not sure what the country can do if they readily embrace ignorance.


    “researchers have found a strong correlation between the unvaccinated and low levels of education. It found more than half of unvaccinated American adults who reported strong hesitancy to the vaccine had a high school education or less. “

    “that when it comes to attitudes and beliefs about the COVID-19 vaccine — from willingness to get the vaccine to knowing someone who has been vaccinated to the perceived risks of side effects — there is a substantial gap between more- and less-educated U.S. residents”


    Education is now a bigger factor than race in desire for COVID-19 vaccine

    New Research: Low Education Levels Strongly Tied to Being Unvaccinated, Major Contributor to Ongoing Hesitancy
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    This means nothing. In fact it represents arrogance at the highest level.

    If you still think taking one of these shots makes sense…you are fully controlled by the propaganda of this entire thing.

    There were times where certain groups should have taken the shot. Now there is just not justification for just about anyone.

    There is a reason people are not taking the bivalent booster or giving their kids these shots now. The doctors on the front lines now have the confidence to know the CDC and FDA failed them. It is a small group of authoritarians pushing this crap now.

    Glad I never fell for the push. I considered it. Asked the questions with my doctor. But ever felt compelled to take the shot(s). I finally got Covid (never tested but with certainty for one of the omicron versions). It was nothing but a cold. There was never a reason to put my body to work unnecessarily and risk the side effects.

    And the fact we are still telling 6 month olds to take these drugs is criminal at this point!
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    There is also a strong correlation between educational level and the planet only has ten years but we’re going to adjust backward to 12 years because we needed two years to hide from rogue nanoparticles and we may need another year because we need to stand behind a proxy war that is destroying a fake country to destroy democracy.
     
  5. VAg8r1

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    I don't feel all that strongly one way or the other regarding vaccinating younger children. That being said I would place much more weight on the recommendation of the American Academy of Pediatrics than on the anti-vaxxer community.
    American Academy of Pediatrics Applauds CDC Approval of Safe, Effective COVID-19 Vaccines for Children Ages 6 Months and Older
    COVID-19 Vaccine: Frequently Asked Questions- American Academy of Pediatrics
    Which COVID-19 vaccine should I recommend to my patients?
     
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  6. WC53

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    Grand niece, 2 weeks old, in the hospital on O2 with covid.
    Still out there and not a hoax, not the flu. Be best.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Nobody ever got sick before March 2020.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    There is a reason so few kids are getting the shot(s) even though they AAP shays they “should”…

    Pediatricians are not peddling the narrative being pushed by the these public health idiots and the AAP. Sadly these organizations are political. Thankfully the pediatricians on the front lines are following the science now.
     
  9. flgator2

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    Clearly my bro BigC has been missing me, I'm back from my long vacation. So we can start bonding again
     
  10. duggers_dad

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  11. Gatorrick22

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    Anyone at this point thinking the American Academy of Pediatrics is making decisions in the best interest of kids is either ignorant or obtuse, or a little of both.
     
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    Go to the actual study linked in the clickbait to find :
    "Discussion
    This large population-based cohort analysis provides evidence that the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against severe outcomes is high. We assessed effectiveness by comparing people who had been vaccinated with those who had not been vaccinated across all BMI categories." and
    "Surprisingly, we observed a higher risk of test positivity after vaccination with one or two doses across all BMI groups, which is contrary to evidence reported by the UK ONS."

    Then as to the claim of vaxed vs unvaxed:
    " This finding might be spurious as we could not use a negative test case-control design to assess vaccine effectiveness and could not control for factors such as health-seeking behaviours, access to testing, and case ascertainment in people who have been vaccinated versus people who have not been vaccinated.
    There might also have been a high proportion of asymptomatic cases that were not being tested (hence not recorded in our data) after vaccination."
     
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  14. VAg8r1

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    Also from the Brits. Typical of almost every other study on the subject.
    Coronavirus infections three times lower in double vaccinated people - REACT | Imperial News | Imperial College London
    LifeSite isn't exactly a credible source. Given that the study appears to be an extreme outlier my guess is that the results were either misstated (most likely) or there were some confounding factors.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    Given that the probability of young children contracting a serious case of Covid is extremely low the APA's recommendation can be characterized as overly cautious. That doesn't mean that the organization is incorrect and that young children NEVER contract serious cases of Covid.
     
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  16. gator95

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    No one with a brain listens to the AAP after they reversed course on recommending schools being open because the Teachers unions pushed back. That's not science, that's playing politics. Once they decided to play politics, they lost all respect and that's why so many don't believe anything they say.
     
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  17. Gatorrick22

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    It's so sad that people, right now, still believe that those shots actually help you.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    But she’s do it again “because it’s what we have to do to see people” ...

     
  19. VAg8r1

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    Again while they may have been overly cautious, that occurred in the summer of 2020 before there were either vaccines or effective therapeutics for the treatment of Covid-19 and when the lethality rate from the dominant variant was much higher than it is now. Just to refresh your memory. From September 2020.
    Teacher deaths from COVID-19 raise alarms as new school year begins
    28-year-old teacher at SC public school dies of COVID-19
    Students, teachers remember ‘one of a kind’ teacher who died from COVID-19 complications
    From April 2020.
    Beloved Brooklyn teacher, 30, dies of coronavirus after she was twice denied a COVID-19 test
    From July 2020
    Beloved Arizona teacher dies of coronavirus, two others sharing classroom also infected
    And as a point of information, prior to the 2021 school year the AAP issued a very strong statement recommending that schools open. From the summer of 2021.
    American Academy of Pediatrics Updates Recommendations for Opening Schools in Fall 2021
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Remember that creepy homage, in the London Olympics opening ceremony, to its venerable NHS ? The meme is likely only a slight exaggeration. But public health all over the world literally gaslit their populations to death. This is why I put public health, not governments, not media at the top of the culpability chain for crimes against humanity ...

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