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Telosa - Future City

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    This will be interesting to watch develop and who backs it. Urban planning to the extreme for a new 150k acre, 234 sq mile city to be built from the ground up based on everything needed for daily life being within 15 minutes. Social services to be provided by foundation that is capitalized by the selling of the land in the city

    A tech billionaire is building a giant, 150-acre city in the middle of the desert (msn.com)

    Alana Goldweit, Telosa’s lead architect, explained the city’s layout in a slickly produced video on the project’s website. At the town hall, she said that Telosa will be made of 36 mixed-use districts, so residents can enjoy reaching all of life’s necessities in a 15-minute walk, as popularized by Carlos Moreno’s “15-minute city.”

    A public green space will stretch throughout the spine of the city, giving 5 million people easy access to nature. The plans boast futuristic, organic skyscrapers, zooming monorails, community parks, and bustling ADA-accessible courtyards.
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    The city will run on renewable energy to increase sustainability and cut down on planet-warming pollution. Autonomous vehicles will keep the streets safe, and can save space for pedestrians and community spaces. Accessible education, job training, and healthcare are also major parts of the team’s plans.

    When planning Telosa, the team examined ways to finance social services and decided on a new economic model, which it calls “Equitism.”

    In this system, all of the city’s land is owned by a foundation managed by residents. As the land increases in value, the foundation can sell plots and leases and use this money to fund an endowment for the city. Telosa claims that, with this system, “as the city does better, the residents do better.”
     
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  2. Orange_and_Bluke

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    How many libbies are allowed in?
     
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  3. DesertGator

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    An unbelievable amount of variables to be considered in this endeavor. Not the least of which is water supply. It'll be insanely difficult (nothing is impossible) to create a sustainable city of the size they're shooting for that has a zero sum water consumption. Doubly so given they've "zeroed in on Arizona, Nevada or Utah" as the location.
     
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  4. sierragator

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    Vegas is already unsustainable for the long haul and now someone wants to put another city with millions of people in the desert. Brilliant.
     
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  5. citygator

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    Looks super cool.. where is the water coming from?

    This was quote:

    Placing a city in the desert is great, until you want a glass of water. That’s why Telosa intends to store, clean, and reuse water on-site with high efficiency.
     
  6. ridgetop

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    Most of our modern big cities did not plan for expansion and the amount of water needed.
    IF a big IF they plan accordingly there could be ways for the city to save and use water.
    Xeriscaped lawns
    Underground reservoirs
    Recycled grey water
    Rain catchment systems

    It takes planning but could maybe be done… depending on the exact location.
     
  7. docspor

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    Gross. Central planning will ensure soullessness. “Everything” that is needed is arrogant & likely way wrong.
     
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  8. GatorNorth

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    Think the Villages with red rocks, sandy shorts and dry heat.
     
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  9. PITBOSS

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    It’s surprising there isn’t more, or any consideration and planning for our entire infrastructure. Traffic, parks, zoning, schools, shopping-necessities, travel, homes, apts, etc. all these impact the vast majority of posters here, their families and our day-to-day quality of life. Eventually we will address this but only after it’s a major problem and we can barely function. It would be more efficient to be proactive.
     
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  10. Gatorhead

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    Maximize profits, control all aspects of human behavior, pack them in the tightest space available. Train them to be proper consumers.

    Human termites - I can't wait.

    That Saudi prince is working on the same concept.

    Shades of Blade Runner #1 or "soilent green".

    I'm really glad my biological expiration date is approaching, of course if Putin launches that may be faster coming than previously thought.
     
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  11. tilly

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    Lets just hire this guy to get the new Rays stadium built. That is realistic. This thing seems like a weird movie plot.
     
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  12. mrhansduck

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    This sounds like it could be an HOA on steroids.
     
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  13. sierragator

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    "Karenistan"
     
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  14. LimeyGator

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    Certainly a fascinating idea. Not my cup of tea, but it'll be interesting to see unfold!
     
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  15. 96Gatorcise

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    District 1 from the hunger games.

    Also if everything is within 15 mins of "life's necessities" I assume they planned for a red light district.:eek::D:devil:
     
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  16. ridgetop

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    We built and moved part time off the grid several years ago. nearest neighbor is 1/2 mile down a Rocky Mountain road. Need 4 wheel drive to get in or out most seasons. 250 acres of woods that God takes care of. 300 more acres owned by my family.
    Solar power. Rain catchment and ponds and creeks. Small garden in a clearing. Deer, bear, turkey, bobcats, etc…
    And no need for central planning by a govt. we do the planning, we do the work, we do the upgrades. I live it!
    I’d hate whatever this city plan is.. HATE it. It would literally kill me.
     
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  17. GatorRade

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    Yep, no centrally planned city seems to have worked yet. Likely that isn’t about to change here.
     
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  18. jhenderson251

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    Have you read Dune?
     
  19. tilly

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    They better hurry before of all of Oaklands sports teams move to Vegas.

    Telosa Athletics has a nice ring to it.

    Or maybe if they take 30 years the Raiders will be ready for yet another move.
     
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  20. BLING

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    Outside of those Chinese ghost cities, are there any “planned” cities in modern times?

    This would be an interesting social experiment, like a godzilla master planned community (presumably the point here would be to be able to work where you live, which is not a feature of most master planned communities, instead this would typically be suburbanites commuting into the city. The traffic issues so many cities have is because everything was done haphazardly over the decades (in some cases infrastructure is a century old, and adding new layers to work with existing/old infrastructure can often be a boondoggle). Putting it in the desert seems a strange choice though.