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The Movie "61"

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  1. ocalaman

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    61* (TV Movie 2001) - IMDb
    If you haven't seen this Billy Crystal-directed movie about the 1961 Yankees and the Roger Maris/Mickey Mantle story of the M & M boys and the stress Maris was under as he broke Babe Ruth's HR record, I highly recommend it. I was 9 years old, but remember a lot about that team. I knew all the players and their stats. Mickey Mantle & Johnny Unitas were my first sports heroes and I had read as much as I could about the Mick while growing up, so knew a lot about his family background and wild times in New York. A bunch of the Yankees used to spend time in the winter in Sumter County at Lake Panasoffkee fishing and several of my friends who lived there got to talk with them occasionally. When Roger Maris retired he bought a Budweiser distributorship in Gainesville and settled there with his family. He also coached baseball at Gainesville Oak Hall, where his kids went to school. Truly a nice, family man from all accounts
     
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    Watched Facing Nolan last night. That was fun.
     
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  3. GatorLurker

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    IIRC correctly he didn't buy it but it was part of his compensation from playing for the Cardinals and we all know who owned the Cardinals. Good old Augie.

    Anyway after Roger died the Busch family took the distributorship back and Roger's kids didn't get it.

    It is great to be a huge corporation and have every legal avenue open to you to fight a small family.
     
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  4. ocalaman

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    I stand corrected on the "bought" statement. Roger Maris & his brother owned the distributorship, known as Maris Distributing, but as you properly stated it was given to them. But the kids/family did get at least $120,000,000 from Anheuser-Busch, although it took a lot of lawsuits, trials and expenses to finally win the money in court.
    Maris family awarded millions
    Anheuser-Busch to pay Maris family $120 million
     
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  5. mkfgator

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    Good for the Maris family.
    Some of my fraternity bros worked for Maris. He donated kegs of beer for our rush parties when I was rush chairman.
    Great man and family.
    I will make sure to watch the movie.
     
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  6. shelbygt350

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    Roger Maris was from Minnesota, same small town as Bob Dylan. Both were not household names until fame. Dylan was sort of ushered off the stage in a talent music show.

    I was fortunate enough as a kid (8-14 yr old) to get to know many Yankees during spring training. The stuff they gave us got played with and destroyed. Oddly we did not ask for autographs, photos, etc. They gave us old gloves, baseballs, bats, etc.

    I ran into one of the famed old Yankees about 20 years ago and I said "we met before", to which he replied, "where?". When I told him he hugged me and said I was old. He even asked about family etc. We were cracking up and my wife was perplexed as were others around us that he would even know me.
     
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  7. ocalaman

    ocalaman GC Hall of Fame

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    Good stories. Maris was born in Hibbing, MN in 1934, but the family moved to Grand Forks, North Dakota in 1938, then to Fargo in 1946. From everything I've read and heard, Maris was a great guy and a wonderful family man. It's one of the reasons he retired from baseball in 1968 at age 34. And from all accounts, those late 50's, early 60's Yankees teams were very closely knit with a bunch of good guys.
     
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    You are right Ocalaman. I believe Maris and Mantle lived together in 1961. Back in those days the Yanks would get on subway to ride to and from Yankee Stadium with fans going to and from work too. Can you imagine that!

    Don Larson was also a nice guy. As a kid, I saw him in the hotel lobby where they stayed for spring training and like the pest I was asked him how to throw a curve ball. Incredibly, he took me outside and showed me the grip and how to throw it. I still know the grip in which he put his index and middle fingers together on the edge of the seam (seam on right side of middle finger).
     
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  9. ocalaman

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    Yep - The Movie '61" shows how Maris & his roommate Bob Cerv talked Mickey into rooming with them when Mantle's drinking was getting out of hand. Roger calmed the Mick down some, the two became very close and Mantle was one of Roger's biggest supporters during his run to hit 61 HR's.
     
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  10. GatorLurker

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    And Kevin McHale.

    Not bad for a small mining town.
     
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  11. GatorLurker

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    Isn't that contributing to the delinquency of a minor?

    I shouldn't talk. I was 17 when I went to college and already had a receeding hairline so I was the guy that had to buy the beer and never got carded. The secret was to buy a lot of beer and make sure that the owner was on the register. I looked old and it was a big sale.

    I am assuming the statues of limitations are in play here.
     
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  12. GatorLurker

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    I know it is off topic, but such a great story.

    Another scam that I played as a kid worked like a charm.

    As a kid I lived near some railroad tracks on the Southside of Chicago and got to know an honest to God hobo. Last of a dying breed. He was there a couple of days and full of stories. Many of them BS, probably. Everytime I listen to Gordon Lightfoot's "The Watchman's Gone" I think of him.

    He told me about how they would mark the properties in the alleys to show which houses might be a soft touch for food or a little cash and which were not. Hobos paying it forward as a brotherhood.

    I then instructed my Halloween "crew" to use chalk marks to say which houses had good candy and which ones to avoid. We spread out and did different streets. It then made our Halloween process very effecient.
     
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  13. mkfgator

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    Great assumption. No cell phones then!
     
  14. 74nole

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    That’s a cool story :cool:
     
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    Ocalaman- my father was the traveling secretary of the Yankees that year. I saw a few of the games from the club box in the stadium. An exciting time for sure.
    He was also stadium manager of the stadium for a year and he and I attended the
    "greatest game" ever played between the Colts and Giants. Unitas was unstopable.
     
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  16. ocalaman

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    That's awesome. The very first football game I remember watching on TV was that NFL title game between the Colts and the Giants right after Christmas in 1958. I was a month short of being 7 years old. We were living in SE Ohio where my parents were born. We moved to Florida the summer of '59. Can't believe you were there!!! Frank Gifford, Sam Huff, Pat Summerall for the Giants; Unitas, Gino Marchetti, Raymond Berry, Lenny Moore for the Colts. That game got me hooked on football and I was a fan of the Colts from then until they moved to Indianapolis. Unitas was a tremendous player and ahead of his time in the passing game.
     
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    Back then @ocalaman Johnny Unitas to Raymond Berry on that down and out timing pattern were unstoppable-Unitas had already thrown the ball when Berry was making his cut—they were so good together! Kinda makes you wonder how many total yards that play produced for them throughout their careers.
     
  18. GatorLurker

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    I watched that game and I was four.

    That game made the NFL.

    I remember lots of TV from my youth. Ernie Kovacs was awesome and his humor probably twisted my mind.
     
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    The legal drinking age in Florida was 18 from 1973 until 1980, then 19 until they rolled it to 21 around 1985, the year Maris died.
     
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  20. shelbygt350

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    Well, what did your Dad think of the job that George Castanza did while he was NY Yankee Traveling Sec?

    In1972, pre NFL season, I got to personally sit down with the great Unitas. He explained in detail why he opted to throw that out pass to the right in OT right before the Ameche run into the endzone for the win. He saw the angle of the NY DB Emllon (sic?) Tunnel moving play after play a bit more inside, opening up an out pattern to Jim Muscheller (sic) which Unitas said was a perfect play for TD, that there was no way from his position that DB could pick it. The Colt TE would have strolled into the endzone if not slipping on ice and going down. Interesting from his eyes and brain.
     
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