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Out since August 18th....any updates on Jack Miller?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by cedarkey_gator1, Sep 18, 2022.

  1. upstategator

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    Yea this is my thinking. I just didn’t want to mention the “y” word.
     
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  2. G8torsRUL

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    Don’t disagree. You’ll even find that I wrote about it being two possible issues, in another thread. Mental or vision.

    His two most common mistakes reminded me of J Russell (pressure or NOT moving onto next play) and the Vision side of J Winston. Before and after Lasik.
     
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  3. MCB51

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    A spring game is hardly a total way to judge a qb..are they playing with all the 1s? I used to go to those games and many of our players looked poor..but when the season started..they were a different player..most spring games are a glorified practice and some of the players on the divided up teams are not the starters
     
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  4. Tgator5

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    Exactly. The kool-aid drinking of "it's his first time as a starter" is complete nonsense. It's his third season. Don't tell me he suddenly forgot how to throw a forward pass.
     
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  5. GatorMcCluskey

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    I hear you and understand where you're coming from, but Richardson can't throw the ball with any kind of consistency. We aren't winning anything this year relying on his arm, and I've already seen enough so far to question whether that will ever change for AR.

    I'm not saying he absolutely can't get better, and I'm still in his corner and haven't given up hope yet. But by a guy's third year out of HS, it's pretty rare to see one have the kind of glaringly awful accuracy issues and mental mistakes AR's shown this season and then turn around and improve enough to be an SEC-level passer (let alone the NFL).
     
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  6. MCB51

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    I hear what you are saying..and agree somewhat..but even though it is his 3rd year (start of 3rd) how much actual college playing experience does he actually have..did he play 1 down his first year? I know he played limited-time last year..with mixed results..I don't think he ever played much after uga game? So really how much game time experience ..I am not trying to make excuses..but I also think he is trying to taking on too much on his own rather than having his team mates help him..forcing too much because of all the hype about him...he thinks he has to live up to those lofty goals all the time
    High school experience, not the same as actual, repetitive college playing experience..same with nfl..just because you had great college playing experience doesn’t equate to the nfl..ask Tim.
     
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  7. WC53

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    Didn’t they have to hire a team of fixers for Dak?

    Less whispering more coaching;)
     
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  8. MCB51

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    Well if it's vision..get the lasik
     
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  10. MCB51

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    AR does wear thick looking glasses..having poor eyesight myself..it is tough..my glasses are not that great either
     
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  11. G8torsRUL

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    Seems like it would be the solution, to that possible root cause.

    3 tough games to start, new system, so I expect growing pains. Hopefully he gets tru the mental blocks. I expected 4-5 loses, with AR. We’ve lost 1.
     
  12. iam4uf

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    If our 3rd string QBs are not that good, then AR would have all the power if we had no backups. Competitive fire & desire to help his teammates would compel him to run & BN could do nothing. He's not hurt - look at the dunk video shown during the game. So I have to conclude that AR doesn't want to run. Probably visions of Mel Kiper sugarplums after the season.
     
  13. rmonteag

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    Fantastic description!
     
  14. demosthenes

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    I don’t think it’s BN. I think AR has realized he can’t take a hit.
     
  15. GatorMcCluskey

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    I agree on game time experience helping him adjust to SEC speed and make better decisions on where to go with the ball - that stuff is definitely important for a QB who hasn't played a lot, and hopefully he'll calm down some and start seeing the field better as the year goes on.

    but playing more games won't fix him throwing 100mph bullets at guys right in front of him, or slinging it 10 yards over a wide open receiver's head, or throwing line drives directly at defenders, etc. That kind of severe accuracy issues and lack of control or inability to recognize how hard he's throwing it is stuff that game reps aren't going to fix.

    that's basic mechanics and awareness that you'd expect a guy to have been working on and fixing with off-season and practice reps a long time before now. Again, not saying it'll never happen, but AR looks like a lower level HS player throwing the ball a lot of the time, not a redshirt sophomore at UF, and it's just extremely concerning to me to see him be this bad at making basic throws at this point in his career. So I think the coaches are going to have to bite the bullet and use his legs a lot more than his arm moving forward if we're going to have any chance with AR at QB this year against the better teams we're about to see.
     
  16. MCB51

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    Maybe that dunk video was before the uk game? Do we know?
     
  17. iam4uf

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    The date on the tweet was 9/17.
     
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  18. MCB51

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    That is the tweet..that does not mean that video was done then..I am going to investigate this...I have my way..:)
     
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  19. iam4uf

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    I hope you can find out. Like everyone else, I'm trying to figure out what the heck is going on with him not running after Utah.

    Cubelic wasn't the sideline reporter for Kentucky.
     
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  20. gator34654

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    Understand what you're saying and I agree it's not time to bail on AR but if there is no improvement as the season goes on, it's time to give someone a shot. I think most of us now understand about the best this team can do is win enough games to be bowl eligible.
    Of all the games I've watched and I've watched them all with AR, he gave us some wow plays basically against poor teams. EJ wasn't getting it done and ewe all clamored for what we thought at the time was the second coming of Cam. We couldn't figure out why in the world DM wasn't playing him or starting him. We assumed we knew more than DM who was falling out of favor.
    With AR, we saw speed, strength, with a few spectacular plays thrown in. But what we are seeing and many are realizing he is not a passer, he is one dimensional and even that for whatever reason is not being utilized. It's getting to the point when he is back passing, I get very nervous. There is not much we can do this year I'm afraid, but I just hope that BN is not DM when it comes to loyalty and not be open to a real qb competition next year.
     
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