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Our double standard on prejudice

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Sep 18, 2022.

  1. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

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    While the Duke/BYU incident received significant national coverage, the media focus is almost non-existent when it’s the Mormons who are on the receiving end (with far more verifiable evidence)



    Not my intent to reignite the Duke debate but I find this 100%, completely, entirely and utterly despicable, and every person identified in this video should be kicked out of school at UO.
     
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  2. murphree_hall

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    Definitely unacceptable. They should be disciplined, yes. Kicked out, no.
     
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  3. pkaib01

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    Prejudice is bad. Different people respond to different displays of prejudice differently.

    Boy, the "gator_" + "some number" posters are going to love this thread.
     
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  4. GatorNorth

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    As Maya Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
     
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  5. G8R92

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    Why do we act like that was the only stadium on Saturday that this type of behavior occurred?
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    Miami ND. “Catholics vs. Convicts.” Pure racism from Catholics. Source of personal shame.

    Tons of ND hatred on this board that traffics in historical anti-Catholic themes that I suspect the posters are rarely even aware of.

    Male College students tend to be immature assholes. Almost got beat up numerous times trying to get between drunken Gators and some old couple wearing the other colors leaving a game, getting berated and harassed.

    The monikers bestowed on opponents are usually some vicious smear based on the perceived traits of the school populace.

    This is horrible, but seems to be more a species of the traditional game day assholes than part of wider prejudice, though there is certainly that against Mormons and the two are never completely distinct. Many game day assholes grow up be more refined douchebags with power.
     
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  7. mrhansduck

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    I think it’s wrong to attack the believers of an entire religion. Even as goofy and dangerous as I think Scientology is, I don’t think they should be attacked as people. That said, I don’t think criticizing or mocking beliefs is the same as hating people based upon an immutable characteristic such as race - which none of us has any control over.
     
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  8. PITBOSS

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    I’ve been to many football games and never heard a chant mocking a group for their religious beliefs - but I’m sure not the first time and I anticipate byu has heard that and more. But it does seem worse if it was a chant of a racial epithet.

    Fortunately not too many participants in the chant (I’m hoping).
     
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  9. GatorNorth

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    Who is acting like that? And what does your question even mean? Sounds like you’re saying it’s ok cause others do it as well.

    Find me a similar video from anywhere else, and I’ll vilify them too.
     
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  10. GatorNorth

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    Wasnt Catholics vs Convicts media driven? I believe ESPN even had a 30 for 30 episode with that title.

    But a lot has changed in the 30-40 years since.
     
  11. G8R92

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    https://www.fox13now.com/news/local...es-after-fans-chant-f-the-mormons-at-byu-game

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/583476-usc-apologizes-for-anti-mormon-chant-at-byu-game/

    We lock those threads here when it’s about our own fan behavior. Don’t want to risk that.
     
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  12. GatorNorth

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  13. G8R92

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    You’re going to have a portion of any population that are idiots. Through in a little liquid courage and boom.
     
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  14. GatorNorth

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    Yup. My experience is that liquid courage lubricates the racism but certainly doesn’t create it.
     
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  15. tampagtr

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    And a lot hasn't. Unfortunately. Yes it was media driven but not media created. It started organically with Notre Dame students. I have great shame about that as a Catholic and as a Notre Dame supporter as my second team
     
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  16. Gatorrick22

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    The sheeple have no clue that they are useful idiots... unoriginal... group-think... and part of the plan.
     
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    When we were playing Utah, there were some fans near me shouting stuff about Mormons.
     
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  18. Gatorhead

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    Wouldn't it be nice if people of all religions or those that simply do not believe treated each other with the golden rule?

    But young males, fueled by alcohol, are not a particularly desirable cross section of society to be around. Especially at Public Venues.

    Why do you think countries draft young men (boys really) into the military....
    For physical fitness attributes??
    Lmao, think again....
     
  19. Spurffelbow833

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    The vast majority of people who hate on Mormons call themselves Christians. Or Utah Democrats.
     
  20. QGator2414

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    I am not sure anyone is saying that. Shoot. I don’t plan to go back to the Swamp anytime soon for a night game with my kids after the Kentucky game. Had 5 that turned into 15 young drunks vaping around my family. The alcohol eventually started talking louder and louder. Unfortunate situation and certainly not a resemblance of the entire stadium that night. Just not worth the risk of putting my kids in front of it going forward. Every game is a risk. Night games especially.
     
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